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greetings and

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yes salutations and welcome back

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to truth seekers uh

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tonight we had planned this

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sort of special uh

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special show uh

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and that would be with a special guest

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cal court

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i am a little bit behind i didn't want

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i didn't want to delay the broadcast so

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please

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okay i have to send him the invite so

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a little bit of time for people to come

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in the chat for this

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okay so the invites out

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if you're watching i sent it to you both

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on facebook and then twitter

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you just need to click on it and uh

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click allow webcam and mic

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access and then you should be in our

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green room i should

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see a pop-up once you've accepted the

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so i see cal port is in the live chat

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okay let's see if we can get him on

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get him in i uh had a very long day

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trying to build a cabin extra room

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this thing is kicking my ass uh

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yes so the cabin's kind of uh that extra

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room is coming together now i know it's

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it's gonna happen it's just a matter of

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time energy and

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dedication today i uh

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just kind of worked myself out of

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materials so i have to

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chop up some more logs and uh

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we are awaiting our special guest here

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that would be one cal court

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cal corps like went down to the wire i

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think he was still working on some

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something that we're going to share

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the uh the show started

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uh or show time so uh

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i'm not sure what he has planned and

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that's lost oh yeah cal court yeah

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it says lots of surprise

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surprises moment okay

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so cal i sent you the i saved the

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invitation to the show

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just have to uh click accept

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and uh then you'll be ready to get in

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you know going forward i think it's a

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good idea i try to do this when we're

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have them you know come in 10 minutes

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in the meantime i will turn my full

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attention to the live chat

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talk to you guys it's been a few days i

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you know don't want to just do a show to

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and then i was going to cover this uh

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four hour video here it's gonna take ten

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kalkhoff is uh trying to configure his

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just bear with me friends you know

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so saturday night at the cabin i worked

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secondary room which is gonna really be

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already tell um it's really just a

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matter of time now and

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having enough tree pieces around

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and i'm still gonna have to go and get

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material and make some beams for that

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things are looking pretty good i have no

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idea how long this is going to take me i

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this cord wood stuff it's so tedious

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that just like you think like oh i could

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cal you just have to click on the link

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okay the edition looks good

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how long it goes how far you know how

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is this going to take me how long

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okay let's see dan hogan did you guys

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see the points in the curve guy went to

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colorado and stuck in dw

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now crazy yeah i heard about that um

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i don't know is that stalking though if

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he's just driving by his house to see if

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there's cars in the driveway

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that's a little uh yeah i mean you're

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going to somebody's house bro

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like you know all internet games aside

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should have the right to privacy

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in their own homes uh for sure in their

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so that may be a bridge too far but that

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yeah but then again uh you know david

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he's gonna go to a secret location

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which is probably like his garage or

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something you know he's just hanging out

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his million dollar mancave

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william pixley familiar with robert

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sepper's work he'd be a great guest

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vaguely familiar and yeah he would be a

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try to make that happen that would be uh

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that would be a good time

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so here we have calcorp uh but

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hold on one second cal can you hear me

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yes i can hear you i've been waiting for

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to come on so uh the machine i was using

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support safari i had to go to another

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machine to support safari so

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one of those things i'm sorry that guy

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so how you doing steve good but we have

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audio are you just doing audio today

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i'll put an avatar up for you

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yeah i'm i'm doing uh audio for now

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just send you in the chat a couple of

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images for the talk

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and also um i'm exporting the video

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of the thing that i'm going to give

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exclusively to you

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i'll describe what's in it yeah you're

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still exporting it

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come on cal no you're like worked right

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up to the end of this thing didn't you

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it's not that big a deal well actually

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it is when you're

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it is it is a big deal though right it

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is when you're trying to do everything

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we were doing here um especially

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since everything has come together at

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all at once rather than in piecemeal

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um and of course there's fires out here

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and everything else it's just been a

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mess

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but um anyway so uh where would you like

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me to begin sir

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uh just go through the thing and again

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this video is going to be needed to be

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watched

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over and over by a couple of people

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because it is sweeping and you've seen

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some of this before

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so nothing in here will be a surprise

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when you get it but i'm giving it

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exclusively to you

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and um it's compressing away on another

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machine while we're talking here

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and why don't you tell us a little bit

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about what you've got to share

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first okay all right thanks um

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what i have to share is called ufo

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disclo real ufo disclosure too

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and we hear the word disclosure a lot

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it's overused it it's deceptive it's

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misleading disclosure simply means of

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course you're going to reveal

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something and as you know there's people

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talking about disclosure promising the

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charging money for stuff and it never

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happens the aliens never show up the

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documents never appear

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the meta materials never seem to be

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verified by science whatever

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in the meantime they've raised god knows

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how much money by

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from people who get fooled by this and

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then of course the tv networks

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go bonkers promoting this as if it's all

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and it's not of course so

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what happened was when you and i met and

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we did the shows last october you

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were the one who got the first set of

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slides from a ufo disclosure one event

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and as you mentioned in your past show

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there were some projects that we were

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working on that we were going to try to

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get done and release them

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well what happened is the pandemic hit

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right when we were getting ready to

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launch the annie jacobson book

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rob mcconnell of rilmar publishing is

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publishing that one

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and that was volume one of this new

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series

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called ufology euphulogy and

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it is not a joke it is not a prank

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it is a very serious research and

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development platform

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and yes it uses ufology and euphulogy in

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the term

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but or in the name but there's a very

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good reason for that and i can thank

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stanton friedman

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for it because when i first met him in

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may of 1975

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as a young boy he told me what that word

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meant

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mispronounced

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ufology i'd pronounced it ufo ology

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that's how much i knew

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and i had not even given my first

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lecture yet i did after i met stanton

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friedman

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so at all real ufo disclosure events

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regardless of their number i will not

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hold them

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unless i can deliver on my promise of

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the name

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i can't speak for anybody else i know

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you don't hype stuff either

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but you know i'm not stephen greer i'm

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not gonna promise you

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whatever for ten thousand dollars no i'm

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gonna tell you the truth

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and what we have is going to

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fundamentally change

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ufo research what i think for the better

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and with that kind of introduction i'll

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i'll get into this and

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this is what the video is going to show

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where we were

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putting this to the uh to video so

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people could see it

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rather than just take my word for it

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okay so what happened is when the

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pandemic broke

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and i got the bad news that the annie

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jacobson book was not

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going to physically ship for months they

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didn't know how long

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okay what i did is i went back and i

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looked at the projects that were in the

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pipeline and

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you know very well along and i killed

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off ones that just didn't make sense

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anymore

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so what you're going to see first of all

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in the video

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is the first thing i do is present

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updates

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behind door number one okay so you're

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gonna see door number one

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and then updates and here are those

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updates and again

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this is exclusive to you the caveat

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lawsuit

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update number one okay people have been

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wanting to know about that

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you may remember that uh last year i had

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an article

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called here comes the judge ci

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disinformation scientist and congressman

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may go before a judge under oath penalty

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of perjury

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to explain their roles in a ufo techno

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stand

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that silicon valley legend joe farmage

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did and now he's been sued by famed uh

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fox producer bob keviad now

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i was the journalist who was given

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exclusive access

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to the data in that case bob caveat uh

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i can't thank him enough for that i

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reported the story as

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the facts indicate which means

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congressman marriott furmage and the

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cia's former deputy director ron

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pandelphi are guilty as

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you can't imagine and

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bob kiviat has sued them he won

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every round of those lawsuits and then

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the pandemic struck

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so the catch kind of stalled right yeah

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and what happened stephen

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is the judge had just ordered that this

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case be wrapped up essentially by the

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end of the year

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and then what happened is the pandemic

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struck so

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everything is still on things are still

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proceeding

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i spoke to bob kiviat a couple of days

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ago he's a long time colleague

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and i asked him for an update that i

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could share and he gave me permission to

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tell

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you guys uh the following and again it's

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in the video

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bullet pointed word for word the

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different points so that as

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people talk about this because most

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people will see this as it

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spreads out there which is good they'll

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have the bullet points in front of them

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the lawsuit continues nothing

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has changed okay okay and

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not only is it on but congressman daniel

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marriott

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has become the main guy it seems

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because his role in this has become even

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more discoveries about it's even greater

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than anybody realized

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and he of course is the money behind

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this and he's on the hook

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to pay caveat money that's owed for

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services performed

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now what really gets interesting about

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this is months ago when i broke this

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story thanks to caveat

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a lot of people heard of brandon fugle

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but not the way they do now

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with skinwalker ranch well fugle was ceo

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of this scam

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when it went down and fugle was already

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told by kiviat months ago

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i think last year that you're gonna be a

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witness we knew about the skinwalker

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ranch

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exploitation bs hyperbole show coming on

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and it's like well the networks weren't

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going to deal with this other news about

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fuegle until they made their money

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milking the

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skinwalker stuff of course with the

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lead-in being by the

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series unidentified by history channel

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this is a problem when you have media

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that's owned by just a handful of

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companies

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one parent company will say we're not

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going to expose this because we're

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promoting it is real over here

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like the alien highway travel channel we

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want to make money off that first

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and then three years later when it's in

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syndication maybe we'll expose something

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either way we're making money off both

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ends yeah they're playing both sides of

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the fence

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yeah and i have a real problem with that

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because i think the history channel

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does a disservice i think that uh you

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know um

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real history is always much more

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interesting so the point behind

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this series and the updates with um

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keviad is

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real history does matter he did work and

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sign a contract that's legally binding

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with firmage's company brandon was

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ceo bill mayer uh congressman daniel

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marriott was

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involved so was the cia's rand pandolfie

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others keviad

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can tell you the full story so it

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continues it's not dropping

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it was never not real and it's amazing

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that all these disclosure types just

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dismiss it you would think we're finally

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going to have disclosure

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these people get put under oath unless

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they

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find a way to settle you know we want

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them we want them under oath

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there's the ability to depose some of

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those people

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the things that could be learned under a

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deposition for some of these people is

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would be remarkable absolutely i've been

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following it but like

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like you said it kind of fell off my

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radar because of pandemic and

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other concerns i think that that could

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be

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uh quite a case if it goes forward

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but i have a feeling that at the last

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minute something's gonna happen and

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they're never gonna let these people

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testify under oath

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that's my take on it what do you think

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cal

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i don't know at this point only because

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it's too early to say

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what i really admire caveat for is

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sticking

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to the truth for one i have i haven't

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seen any self-serving anything from him

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on this

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and that's good i'm not saying that

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because he does that he doesn't but what

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i'm saying is

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when anybody has anything like this

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going on and this isn't the only thing

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going on in his life he's got

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issues like everybody else like pandemic

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fires everything

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um it's hard enough doing this let alone

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this and so the idea that you could get

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a pandelphi under oath penalty of

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perjury

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and congressman marriott people who are

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usually

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live a life he's part of the marriott

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hotel chain family so he doesn't

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you know live in the real world so to

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speak and to have them held accountable

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for

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what was really criminal activity and

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there's no question

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i've heard some of the recordings um

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it's incredible and i can't wait for

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this stuff to get out and i hope it does

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come out

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the judge is wonderful and they have

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lost

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every game they played trying to change

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the venue to utah you know why so you

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get a friendly thing there

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uh it isn't working so that's the update

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on that

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the second news is about

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a project i announced that i've now

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cancelled

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and i've canceled it because excuse me

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when the pandemic broke

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i had to look at everything like

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everybody and say well doesn't make

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sense

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so the book which you see in the video i

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show you

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the book on donald trump it was an

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expose

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it was in russia's orbit why

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intelligence

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and government spied on trump and obama

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and it concludes that they did

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they can call it surveillance or

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whatever but they were spying on him

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but it also concludes that some of it

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was absolutely justified

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because of who trump makes a point to

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associate with both

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past present and going forward when he

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leaves the white house

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and there were legitimate concerns but

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that does not mean all the stuff that

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was put in the fisa was valid it was not

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so it's a mixed bag and both sides will

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get out of it what they want

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the truth is always stranger than

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fiction but it wasn't a

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left-wing conspiracy it wasn't a

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right-wing conspiracy to hush it up it

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wasn't that simple

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but the us government has known right

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i'm sorry i didn't

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interrupt you but i followed this whole

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story and i

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i you know my take on it was like

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if you it depends on the news source you

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know what i mean like if you go to the

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conservative news sources

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oh this was terrible what they did to

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him and if you go to the liberal news

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sources

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well he may have had some association

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with

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let's just say not friends of of our

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country

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and so it was justified you know i think

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it's probably the truth of this whole

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thing is somewhere in the middle right

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yes it is and it's pathetic

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that none of the media seems to

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have picked up on that or if they did

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they ignored it because it literally

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went along party lines

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i mean come on when there's stuff in a

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fisa warrant that is not true

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that's on excuse me on the government

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when there is stuff the government knew

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but didn't pursue

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for whatever reason uh that's on them

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too

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one of the things i found real quickly

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is that

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trump giuliani philip sater all these

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guys have known each other forever

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and mueller and comey

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and um holder and lynch

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they were all up and down the food chain

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over the years either director or deputy

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director

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you know one replacing the other one big

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happy family

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and what the u.s government did was

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allow

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trump and his criminal associates let's

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be blunt

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to launder money operate out of trump

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tower

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knowing which floors and who was who and

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it was a good way to monitor that

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activity

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there were deals cut with trump uh look

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the other way whatever

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only they know and i'll tell you one of

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00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,480
the things that surprised me

570
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,679
in in researching the book was why

571
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,159
trump didn't just come out and say look

572
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,640
we've been in bed before on whatever

573
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:18,480
screw you here's the truth i'm i'm

574
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:20,240
releasing all the files and all you guys

575
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,279
are toast

576
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,039
that's exactly what would have happened

577
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:25,120
because when i found out that the russia

578
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,400
that the us

579
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:28,559
knew that some of these people were

580
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:29,600
criminals

581
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,799
and out of god knows what other greater

582
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,640
issue which is never really

583
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,200
put out there to figure out they let a

584
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,799
lot of this activities happen

585
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,320
including an assassination on the

586
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:42,159
streets of new york and

587
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:43,760
money laundering with the colombians

588
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:46,240
there were even israelis involved as in

589
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,360
jews

590
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:50,320
um it's very complicated and what i

591
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:50,960
found out

592
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:54,880
is like the bcca scandal under reagan

593
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:57,840
and of course under uh pakistan under

594
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,720
its old

595
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,200
zeal uh dictatorship all the

596
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,960
intelligence agencies were in there

597
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,120
doing their dirty thing it was a way to

598
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,039
monitor everything and only when one

599
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,600
side got self-righteous they shut

600
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:12,080
ci down for scandal same with some of

601
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,840
the stuff on trump

602
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:15,919
um they knew about manafort going back

603
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,760
to the time of marcos and reagan

604
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,520
that's where the guy cut his teeth

605
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,200
there's no way he could be putin's right

606
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,320
hand guy

607
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,080
and for years they don't know anything

608
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:25,760
about this no

609
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,029
yeah so uh what what is the uh

610
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:35,120
deal with the how are you doing with the

611
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,080
video

612
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,880
yeah so yeah it's uh it's done exporting

613
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,200
now

614
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:42,000
i'm going to uh send you the link for it

615
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,720
and um

616
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,559
so my best thing to do would be to email

617
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,480
it to me so i could share it from a

618
00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,559
browser tab because sometimes this

619
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,840
software doesn't like me using a media

620
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:53,440
player i'm not sure why

621
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,279
okay all right we'll get it

622
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,039
i'm gonna use wii transfer because it

623
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:01,039
won't it's too big of a file to be an

624
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:01,679
attachment

625
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:04,080
okay all right well then i can i'll just

626
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:05,440
yeah i'll just download it from wherever

627
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,880
you send it to me and then i'll email it

628
00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:09,120
to myself i have a big google drive

629
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:12,080
yeah no problem uh okay so i announced

630
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,279
the cancellation of trump book

631
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,120
it doesn't make sense since the pandemic

632
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,440
so what i did is i replaced that book

633
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,720
with the book coming out

634
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:23,360
next after the wendell book tonight

635
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:23,919
which is

636
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,399
covid cover-up what the communist

637
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,320
chinese party doesn't want you to know

638
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:29,840
and it is literally the chinese

639
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,399
communist party

640
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:35,360
wait a minute are you not aware of it of

641
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:36,159
the youtube

642
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:40,000
a.i gods you can't say that on youtube

643
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,909
no i'm just busting your balls i uh i

644
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,880
said yeah but

645
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,559
people's whole channels are getting

646
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,120
stricken from saying stuff like that

647
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,039
and uh there's a lot of uh

648
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,799
i'm not uh sure

649
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,559
i mean generally i just avoid the

650
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,320
subject you know what i mean

651
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:04,320
a lot of people now just avoid the

652
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,360
subject

653
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,559
and we've got this i i followed with

654
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:10,960
interest that chinese

655
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,640
scientists right there's a lot of stuff

656
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,559
that i just think that people don't want

657
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:17,440
us to know

658
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,480
and it's scary it is there's

659
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,919
there's if i were to do a book what they

660
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,360
don't want you to know the way i did

661
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:27,200
roswell uh which was

662
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:29,679
in this case 22 different books that

663
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:32,559
were hiding the truth

664
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,240
there's faults everywhere but

665
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:39,039
looking at the chinese side because they

666
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,000
own this

667
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,799
problem what they did deliberately is

668
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,000
when they lost control

669
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,720
of their own situation they deliberately

670
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,320
made the decision it was a

671
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:50,080
party leadership decision by the

672
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,679
dictator himself

673
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,760
to let these people travel outside the

674
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,440
u.s or outside china they were

675
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,520
encouraged to do it

676
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:59,840
and they went and infected the rest of

677
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,799
the world

678
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,360
if you had an iq of less than one you

679
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,279
would not know that could happen

680
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,960
but surely they knew they had their own

681
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,880
infections in fact they passed

682
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:11,520
strict penalties even welding people in

683
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:12,640
their own homes

684
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:15,760
forbidding all travel inside china

685
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,440
while they let everybody at least five

686
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,880
million people leave and go and affect

687
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,159
the rest of the world

688
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:22,880
this is not a right conspiracy it is a

689
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:23,440
fact

690
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,799
it doesn't matter who you are if you

691
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:26,799
have millions of people infected

692
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:29,039
and you let them travel around the world

693
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,080
you are guilty

694
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:32,640
of infecting the world i don't care if

695
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:34,159
you're the chinese communist party or

696
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:34,559
not

697
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,640
ignored

698
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,440
so that is what happened and what it

699
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:43,679
focuses on is how they started doing

700
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:44,000
this

701
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,760
in october of last year

702
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,679
around the time of the wuhan military

703
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:50,799
games

704
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,480
where there were some people who

705
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,480
survived being exposed

706
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,120
to this disease in a hotel and the

707
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:58,799
authorities were trying to round them up

708
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:59,200
to

709
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,720
take take them back in for more

710
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,559
treatment probably to off them and sell

711
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:04,000
their organs if they could

712
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,679
they do that let's be honest i'm not

713
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,200
saying they that's why but

714
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,760
they clearly wanted this one lady back

715
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:12,000
who left the whole area because

716
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:13,679
she knew they were lying to her about

717
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:15,200
the disease and she had covered they

718
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:15,919
didn't tell her

719
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,799
this is back in october months before

720
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,640
they officially admitted anything

721
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,960
and one of the bombshells in this book

722
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:24,240
is an internal

723
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,520
chinese communist medical report by some

724
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:29,039
doctors it's straight from

725
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:32,240
their network in there okay they can't

726
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,799
deny

727
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,960
it's not one of theirs where it clearly

728
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,279
says that

729
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,880
dozens of people that they ran the

730
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:40,399
genetic tests on

731
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,679
had nothing to do with the market they

732
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,679
had no connection at all

733
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,600
and that was weeks before they publicly

734
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:48,000
admitted it so all i do is focus on what

735
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,520
they don't want you to know i show how

736
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,039
we figured out

737
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:52,640
there was a problem because there was a

738
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,360
huge spike in traffic to hospitals

739
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,279
and license plates were read by

740
00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:58,720
intelligence uh

741
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,440
satellites other surveillance equipment

742
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:03,039
and i explained to show in detail

743
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,960
how the unique characteristics for

744
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,480
control purposes

745
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:08,720
by the chinese government allowed us to

746
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,880
figure out there was a huge problem

747
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,640
disconnect between the number of cars

748
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,240
versus bodies reported

749
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:15,840
but of course you can't trust the white

750
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,519
house to tell you the truth

751
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:18,880
because of who the president is i'm

752
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,440
being blind so that book is

753
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,760
melissa martell whom you know is the

754
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:25,200
publisher

755
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:28,559
and the deal was this unless there's a

756
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,200
nuclear

757
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:31,760
holocaust you will publish she agreed

758
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,480
it's done

759
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,399
so i apologize to her in the video

760
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,640
you're getting she's on there briefly to

761
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:37,760
talk about it

762
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:40,240
she then segues into a segment about

763
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,279
colts and

764
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,120
one of your favorite guys mikey horn and

765
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:44,960
billy meyer oh boy

766
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:48,240
yeah oh boy yeah you know i have to say

767
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:48,799
like you

768
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:52,080
uh you you went on a the deprogrammed

769
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,039
show

770
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:55,919
and all the nutters have left me alone

771
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:56,640
and now

772
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,240
they're all messing with that girl

773
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:02,559
that runs the programs show that you

774
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,519
were on

775
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,679
and uh some of the stuff that they're up

776
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,279
to is ridiculous it's just

777
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,600
straight out harassment if you disagree

778
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,519
with us we're just gonna send hordes of

779
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,039
idiots to harass you

780
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:16,559
for weeks and it's happened to me and uh

781
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:20,320
you know just that's their tactics i

782
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,120
guess

783
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,240
yeah it is but to me

784
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,320
it was interesting because the world i

785
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,000
mean now mikey horn wants to

786
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,640
be on her show so i told her in the

787
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:32,159
video you'll see it that no

788
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,519
mikey has to keep his promise to you to

789
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,760
your show because we all agreed to do it

790
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,880
even mikey

791
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:41,519
and of course mike is referencing this

792
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,600
is for those that don't know

793
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,679
on my previous show the midnight hour i

794
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,000
had uh

795
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:51,200
i had mikey horn on and uh it didn't go

796
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:52,159
well

797
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,480
because for i don't know 15 years maybe

798
00:33:01,269 --> 00:33:00,000
more i've been hearing him cite this

799
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,279
wendell stevens as

800
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:03,279
as an expert witness and why we should

801
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:04,399
believe the

802
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,360
billy meyer fairy tales and i was the

803
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,120
first person to call him on the fact

804
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:11,519
that guy was a multiple convicted child

805
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,640
molester

806
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:15,840
and boy their cult get pissed off at me

807
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:18,640
after that because they like to be able

808
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,039
to

809
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:21,440
look there's a former air force officer

810
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:22,320
you should trust

811
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,600
us our aliens are real it's ridiculous

812
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:30,000
so then kept work then cal court came on

813
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,679
my show

814
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,320
and blew the whole billy meyer called

815
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:36,799
out of the water

816
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,840
but previous to that michael horn agreed

817
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,360
that he would come on

818
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,679
and do a part three so we have michael

819
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,880
horn part one

820
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,559
cow court of part two and the part three

821
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:48,000
was supposed to be a debate between

822
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,279
these two guys

823
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,559
that as it's like legendary this debate

824
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:54,399
between cow court and michael horn was

825
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:55,360
supposed to happen

826
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:57,440
all these different times and every time

827
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,320
mikey horn weasels out of it

828
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:03,600
every time and like just like i

829
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:06,159
play i thought he might he whistled out

830
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:06,960
of doing the

831
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,079
debate and doing the part three

832
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,760
and he's still weaseling out of it

833
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:13,280
making excuses

834
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,839
and you know blaming me for some reason

835
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,359
and then he tried to do it he wanted me

836
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,359
to debate him on another show

837
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,079
and like we never agreed to any of that

838
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,000
it was parts one two and three

839
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:26,560
everybody agreed the three of us and he

840
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,109
so yeah will he ever debate kalkorf i

841
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,879
don't think so i think he's a coward and

842
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,079
he knows that you'll

843
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,639
tear him to shreds with actual facts and

844
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,480
evidence and you won't allow him

845
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,040
he keeps doing this stuff too like you

846
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:45,359
know nasa confirms the authenticity of

847
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:46,639
the billy myer case

848
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,760
and then it's like okay

849
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,560
somebody that worked for nasa said

850
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:54,720
something that was in support of your

851
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,480
so suddenly nasa confirms that

852
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,520
billy meyer is genuine that's not you

853
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:03,359
know facts matter

854
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:09,270
yeah he's they've been doing this for a

855
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,359
long time the last time

856
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,480
the nasa thing brought up and somewhere

857
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,000
on the internet you can find this

858
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,920
uh was the art bell debate against jim

859
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:19,680
delatoso

860
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:23,359
can hear the tape

861
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:25,599
that uh he did not work for nasa that

862
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,480
they had used

863
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,280
nasa letterhead stationery to fake a

864
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,440
letter which of course went

865
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:34,079
through so there's nothing mikey does

866
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,200
that is original

867
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,400
uh first of all another one

868
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,400
another one that he used in defense of

869
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,320
that nasa confirms

870
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:45,119
billy meyer case is genuine is that they

871
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:45,920
discovered

872
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,599
water on mars and they claim that

873
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:52,320
billy meyer was either on mars or

874
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,960
something

875
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:54,640
and knew that there was water on mars

876
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,119
before nasa discovered it therefore

877
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,359
nasa confirms that billy meyer is

878
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:01,280
genuine they never confirmed

879
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:02,320
anything

880
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,920
never well i mean i remember as a kid

881
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,560
the first

882
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,240
science i ever fell in love with was

883
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,119
astronomy when i was

884
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:13,520
five years old my uncle got it i

885
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:14,400
remember

886
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,040
learning there were ice caps on mars

887
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:19,760
yeah so therefore there's water there

888
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:22,160
see them from the earth the question was

889
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:23,280
what kind of water

890
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,800
dry ice normal ice anyway we'll find out

891
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,880
but you know remember those billy meyer

892
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,880
planetoid time travel photos he says

893
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:31,599
those are all

894
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,800
fake so he went to mars

895
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,480
uh you're talking about the fake time or

896
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,240
the real time he's never been there

897
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:41,599
he's he's a cult leader but about this

898
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,079
book

899
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:44,320
which you and i are the co-authors of

900
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,280
yeah and by the way

901
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,359
thank you for that listen you're calling

902
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:49,680
me a co-author and he put my name on the

903
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:50,560
front of the book

904
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,200
what did i write 10 pages that's it i

905
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:55,200
think i wrote 10 pages of the book

906
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:57,839
first of all most of the book um is

907
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,320
really

908
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:00,560
about the uh is the documents the

909
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,839
criminal courts

910
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:04,560
face files they write the book because

911
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,599
what can you say

912
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:07,920
it's there yeah and just so everybody

913
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,000
understands all these stupid people have

914
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:12,160
been attacking me for saying that

915
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,359
wendell stevens was a multiple convicted

916
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,440
child molester with multiple victims

917
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,560
convicted

918
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,040
and did jail time people are attacking

919
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:22,960
me saying that i'm just making up

920
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,160
stuff like why why would you uh

921
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:28,400
impugn that man's character and make up

922
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,520
stories

923
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,599
i can't believe the number of people

924
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,880
that are accusing me of just

925
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:35,280
making this up so i for one am

926
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,079
super glad

927
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,839
here's this book every one of the

928
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,920
documents is in this book

929
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,079
and you too can know the facts and the

930
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,440
truth and

931
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:45,119
you know i i just wish that people would

932
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:46,960
get out of my comment box

933
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,760
saying stupid like i didn't look

934
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,400
here's the

935
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,040
truth i did not i was not able to get

936
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,800
all the court documents because they're

937
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:56,079
so old

938
00:38:02,310 --> 00:37:59,839
and uh but kalkorf had copies

939
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,320
but previous to that i found some of the

940
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,079
documents on my own

941
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,800
but the most of those documents were so

942
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,400
old that they actually required you to

943
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:10,960
walk into a courthouse and request them

944
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,400
so i got enough to to prove to myself

945
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:17,119
that i was accurate in what i said about

946
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:18,800
mr stevens

947
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,839
but cal has got the treasure trove all

948
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:22,720
of them

949
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:26,320
right yeah in fact uh make a long story

950
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,839
short and let's go back to your first

951
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:29,680
question about being co-author

952
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:33,040
stephen if mikey horn had not done what

953
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:34,640
he did to you

954
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,240
the way he did it specifically and

955
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,160
you it didn't unfold the way it did this

956
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:42,240
book would not exist

957
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,800
because if you remember i contacted you

958
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,560
probably a couple months ago and i said

959
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:49,040
you know um i might have access to the

960
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,320
original files

961
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,520
haven't seen them in decades and if i do

962
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,760
you know this is this is worth something

963
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,599
meaning it needs to get out there

964
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,119
because you can't argue with them you

965
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,280
can say well the cia framed him

966
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,839
well here's what's in the book that is

967
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:05,520
just beautiful

968
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,200
um it

969
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,599
you find not only the truth about the

970
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,839
cia's so-called conspiracy to frame

971
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,040
window for

972
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,119
felony child molestation he was

973
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,119
sentenced to 21 years in prison

974
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,880
served three seven-year concurrent

975
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,880
sentences because he was old

976
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,079
otherwise they'd have locked him up a

977
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:25,760
little bit and probably because he was a

978
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:26,720
veteran too

979
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:29,920
you know yeah but there was also a page

980
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,480
about um or a thing about there's a

981
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:34,079
document in there that recognizes a

982
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:35,440
prior conviction

983
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,839
for another case entirely and that was

984
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,960
factored in

985
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,560
to his sentence and why he was

986
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,880
essentially given the maximum

987
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:44,880
considering the circumstances and his

988
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:47,040
age so he got convicted once and then he

989
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,160
reoffended

990
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:51,599
big time well no no he was

991
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,640
hit for 15 and 16 counts for

992
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:56,880
three different victims a couple of

993
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,320
different victims then the court said

994
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:00,880
there's another prior case

995
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,720
uh and it mentions that court case

996
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:04,400
number and so

997
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,240
wendell was not the person people uh

998
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,640
thought at least officially and that's

999
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,720
just a fact we have to admit that

1000
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:15,200
so in this book you see the court

1001
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,560
documents the criminal

1002
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,000
court files which are not on the

1003
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,319
internet you see

1004
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:23,599
wendell himself and the role he played

1005
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,200
in the cia conspiracy you see the

1006
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,920
letters he wrote the letters he wrote

1007
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,599
using a fake name

1008
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:33,920
asking not to tell anybody it's really

1009
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,800
me

1010
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:37,040
it's all in there sure and for those

1011
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:38,160
that don't know

1012
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,480
wendell stevens and his camp tried to

1013
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:41,920
spin everything

1014
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,400
to basically say that the c.i.a framed

1015
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:47,200
him that was a conspiracy against him

1016
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:48,800
because he was getting too close to the

1017
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:50,560
ufo truth and that

1018
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:54,560
is yes specifically meyer case

1019
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:57,200
you see they threw that in there so the

1020
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:57,760
meyer

1021
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,079
cult has become a sex cult ever since

1022
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:01,680
billy meyer

1023
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,880
uh created a pleiadian hybrid child by

1024
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,079
cheating on his wife

1025
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:09,359
and impregnating his rich follower who

1026
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,119
married him so meyers come into money

1027
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:15,599
there's no pleiadian hybrid anything you

1028
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,520
can get a simple dna test that's the

1029
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,200
last message in the book

1030
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:22,160
hey beliebers believers are different

1031
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,280
from believers

1032
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:24,800
beliebers you can't reason with they're

1033
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:27,680
like justin beliebers

1034
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,640
when justin bieber urinates in public

1035
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,400
it's all good because he's justin

1036
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,480
so i call them ufo believers because

1037
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,560
they're like justin beliebers

1038
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:39,599
it's all good as long as it's aliens so

1039
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:40,319
this is all

1040
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,839
in the book including still secret

1041
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,000
surveillance reports on wendell where he

1042
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:48,160
was and the attempts to first go

1043
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:51,280
visit him just to see among law

1044
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,400
enforcement

1045
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,720
what he's saying and whether this guy is

1046
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:56,160
going to be a problem child because the

1047
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,040
us government

1048
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,760
does not like it when you blame them for

1049
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:02,000
the fact you molested several children

1050
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,760
they don't like that and you can't blame

1051
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,839
them yeah

1052
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,079
yeah i mean if you know somebody that's

1053
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,319
in the cia they don't want people

1054
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:13,200
sullying their uh their names and

1055
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,000
reputation

1056
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:15,839
with like that that's especially

1057
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,680
when it's just a totally made-up

1058
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:20,400
fake conspiracy that's obviously

1059
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,400
self-serving like yeah i didn't molest

1060
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:25,510
those kids the government framed me

1061
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,349
you know and i'm glad that i had some

1062
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,960
part in at least the truth that this

1063
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:30,960
thing's coming out and we have this

1064
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,240
jan harzan happened recently so

1065
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:37,040
you know some of these monsters are out

1066
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,440
there

1067
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,599
and they should be known for the

1068
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,440
monsters that they are

1069
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,520
stephen real quickly it's asking me for

1070
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:45,119
your email address

1071
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,640
this is how long it's take to get the

1072
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:48,880
darn screen going go ahead

1073
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:53,520
truth seeker show all one word

1074
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:56,560
h s e e k e r s h o w

1075
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:05,430
alright gmail.com

1076
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:13,750
okay it's on its way so oh it wants to

1077
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,309
all right i'll wait for my verification

1078
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:24,319
code anyway

1079
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,440
okay so um that's what's in the book and

1080
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:30,400
also mikey horn complained for years

1081
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,240
that i wasn't gonna

1082
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,119
investigate the consumer fraud work with

1083
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,520
authorities to prosecute and so on well

1084
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,800
of course i was traveling around the

1085
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:40,079
world doing different things and of

1086
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,160
course other priorities but i was always

1087
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,079
sincere about that so i'm happy to

1088
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,760
report ladies and gentlemen

1089
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,520
and i have no idea how this is going to

1090
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,920
unfold because it's california they're

1091
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,520
slightly occupied right now

1092
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,440
with a lot of other really serious

1093
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:54,720
problems

1094
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,000
anyway breaking news

1095
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,560
in the book the actual letter to the

1096
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:01,920
attorney general of the state of

1097
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,480
california reporting mikey horn

1098
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,280
and the billy meyer ufo sex cult

1099
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:09,280
offering to turn over the data the

1100
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:10,560
evidence the documents

1101
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,599
it's an international team and um you

1102
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,440
know i'm sorry it's consumer fraud when

1103
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,119
you're pumping out pleading hybrid

1104
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,880
children and you've got dna samples

1105
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,480
proven there's nothing

1106
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,520
and that your photos are fake etc

1107
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,960
it's a crime it doesn't matter what the

1108
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:26,880
subject is so we're gonna see what the

1109
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,319
attorney general does

1110
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,560
now that it's out there and this stuff

1111
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,000
can be released

1112
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:34,079
it couldn't before especially when i was

1113
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,200
out of the country

1114
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,520
there's just certain things you can't do

1115
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:39,040
you know unless you're physically some

1116
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:39,680
places

1117
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:41,920
so that's all in the book uh that's

1118
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,480
volume two of ufology or you fooligy

1119
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,560
it's going to be available within the

1120
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:47,520
next uh

1121
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,400
according to amazon 48 to 72 hours

1122
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:52,160
available worldwide

1123
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:55,520
uh the price is uh 7.99 that's really

1124
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,240
good

1125
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,720
and it's all in there and it it yeah and

1126
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,480
i for one can't wait to get it because

1127
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,599
my name is on it

1128
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:03,680
so like me i'm a published author thanks

1129
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:04,880
to cal court

1130
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,000
and really really like

1131
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:10,560
i did almost i did very little in this

1132
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,119
book but i'm proud to be a part of this

1133
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,800
so that people could get the absolute

1134
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,440
real truth and you know not

1135
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:20,560
well stories

1136
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:22,640
what we did to use an analogy and i

1137
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,920
talked to you about it before was we

1138
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,280
lennon mccartney did

1139
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,880
although you and i are nowhere near as

1140
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,400
talented as those two guys

1141
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,480
but basically the to use the analogy

1142
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,480
because we don't want the meyer cult to

1143
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:34,400
lie about this as well they lie about

1144
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:35,520
they got their hands full with their

1145
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:36,640
other lies

1146
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:39,119
um lennon mccartney the beatles they

1147
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:39,680
didn't write

1148
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,680
all the songs together some were only

1149
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,599
paul some were john some were both

1150
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,440
in this case you wrote the entire

1151
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:47,359
section explaining how this

1152
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,119
uh broke open what mikey had done to you

1153
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,880
uh i love the comment where you talk

1154
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,880
about singularity and all that and

1155
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,960
the way you just brain dumped it and

1156
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,240
here you are

1157
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,319
worrying me about you worrying over your

1158
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,920
writing ability when i told you you're a

1159
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:03,920
natural speaker and everything

1160
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,800
i appreciate that that's listen friends

1161
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,480
so cal comes to me and he's like

1162
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,880
all right uh we're gonna do this book

1163
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,720
and uh so you gotta write up i

1164
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,680
go oh my god i never wrote anything like

1165
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,040
that was going to be in a book

1166
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,800
and i got a little stressed out but then

1167
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,480
i just that that's what i decided to do

1168
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,160
cows just do we talked about this just

1169
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,920
do a stream of consciousness right out

1170
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,440
this is what happened and

1171
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,440
and uh i'm glad that it's going to be a

1172
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,880
good contribution

1173
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,319
because i was sweating that thing but

1174
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:31,920
then i said no i'm not going to sweat it

1175
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:33,200
i'm just going to write it out and hand

1176
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,240
it to him and

1177
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:37,200
but i did tell cal like you know edit it

1178
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,599
fix

1179
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,000
it i don't know uh i haven't seen the

1180
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:43,200
finish the full finished book

1181
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,040
well it uh i didn't really have to do

1182
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:46,960
anything all i had to do was put in

1183
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,520
section

1184
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,680
subheaders you know yes yeah i had a

1185
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,440
little bit more to do so i'm anxious to

1186
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,280
see the whole thing finished and done

1187
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:55,839
i've been seeing it come together uh and

1188
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:56,480
it's

1189
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,760
well thank you i hope everybody's

1190
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:03,680
pleased with it the focus groups we did

1191
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,200
we're really happy

1192
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,440
uh because it's like why are we making

1193
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,040
this large format you know

1194
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,520
a full eight and a half by eleven well

1195
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,280
you've got legal documents in there

1196
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,040
and they're serious they're hardcore you

1197
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:16,800
can't deny them

1198
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,359
and people liked seeing them full size

1199
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,800
they didn't want to see them shrunk down

1200
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,319
in a paperback book

1201
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,359
so okay really hard to read in

1202
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,040
a smaller format so absolutely

1203
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:32,400
so um it's now uploading sending on its

1204
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:33,440
way to you

1205
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:36,559
um so can you tell me though you said

1206
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:37,839
that this the book is going to be

1207
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,200
available on amazon

1208
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,240
it is it's going to be ebook and print

1209
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,920
on demand right you can get a printed

1210
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:45,839
book if you want it

1211
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:48,960
no well no it's uh it's print only

1212
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,800
uh because okay great and um

1213
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,319
there's other titles on different

1214
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,680
subjects that are in different formats

1215
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,359
like annie jacobson is available

1216
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,079
both as a same large print format as

1217
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,440
well as

1218
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:04,240
uh a new format called a slide book

1219
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:04,960
because it's

1220
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,280
really for the twitter roti generation

1221
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:08,720
the ones who want it in just

1222
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:12,079
160 characters or less so a bunch of

1223
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,640
slides

1224
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,960
taking apart her book i'm not doing that

1225
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,000
with wendell because

1226
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,880
the documents end up being so small it's

1227
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:20,559
not worth it's better to have

1228
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:23,280
the full thing in a softbound book like

1229
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,920
it is

1230
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,520
and again it should be showing up to you

1231
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:27,359
uh in the next few days

1232
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,040
it'll be available in ibooks and other

1233
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:31,119
places i know that's right you're

1234
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,000
sending a copy to my house right yeah in

1235
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,280
fact amazon already

1236
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:37,119
generated the barcode back cover

1237
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,480
everything i still got to sell this

1238
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,319
oh that's awesome man i can't wait to go

1239
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:42,559
home i'm i'm here at the cabin so

1240
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,309
so then the um uh uh next thing is

1241
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,960
um i thank melissa tell her okay i'll be

1242
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:53,839
working on the

1243
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:56,319
covet thing and get it to her and then

1244
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:57,119
she shares

1245
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:58,559
her little experience with the meyer

1246
00:49:01,829 --> 00:49:00,240
cult what they did and how she got

1247
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,839
a message from them and now another

1248
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,680
message saying they've broken up

1249
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:05,119
but not that you care it's really

1250
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,640
ridiculous it's probably mikey horn

1251
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,839
playing more games

1252
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:10,240
but anyway oh yeah i wanted to ask you

1253
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,040
too uh

1254
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,559
how long is this video in being late oh

1255
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,960
yeah the video is a little bit over an

1256
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:18,720
hour and it can be up there and people

1257
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:20,240
will replay it over and over because

1258
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,040
when they see

1259
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,200
what's in it they're going to it's kind

1260
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,640
of like certain movies you got to go

1261
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,680
through it again you know

1262
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,440
it's going to be kind of like this i'm

1263
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:29,599
giving you kind of the cliff notes of

1264
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,160
this

1265
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,079
because what you're what you're going to

1266
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:34,319
see comes to life in the videos of the

1267
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,599
stuff i'm talking about

1268
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:37,680
so what i do is i show a slide that says

1269
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:38,880
here's the

1270
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,680
ufology fooligy series it's seven books

1271
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:42,880
to start with

1272
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:45,440
and it takes on seven of the top cases

1273
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:46,240
that

1274
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,000
um drive a lot of the culture or

1275
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:53,440
popular views of the subject roswell

1276
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,119
meyer and so on those types of cases

1277
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,760
so volume three is a rex hefling case

1278
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,680
that's coming out in a couple of weeks

1279
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,000
i'm excited about that i was going to

1280
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:06,000
ask though

1281
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:09,200
oh i'm sorry hello

1282
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:12,079
going oh i'm sorry okay so i i wanted to

1283
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,760
ask them how how are we going to do this

1284
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:15,200
video you want me to just

1285
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,119
play it and we'll play it out like well

1286
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,240
yeah when it plays to take it in because

1287
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,800
it it it takes care of itself you see

1288
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,400
melissa on there you see

1289
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:29,040
uh the software come to life which i'll

1290
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,240
get to in a moment

1291
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:32,240
because it has to be shown on video

1292
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,920
otherwise you can't show ar

1293
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:36,079
you know you can describe it but you

1294
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,440
have to see it

1295
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:39,599
so the reason the books are in printed

1296
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,839
format steven a little ahead of the

1297
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,280
spiel here is

1298
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,000
on some of these books we're using

1299
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:47,839
artificial reality now

1300
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,040
to raise the bar on the research so what

1301
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,400
it means is you're going to point your

1302
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,000
smart camera or your tablet

1303
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:56,400
at our wonderful ufology ufoology book

1304
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:57,359
series

1305
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,680
and you're going to take a picture of

1306
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:01,040
the qr code

1307
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,640
and what's going to happen then is like

1308
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:04,559
for the betty and barney hill

1309
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,829
it's augmented reality basically in your

1310
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:14,559
books

1311
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:18,240
yeah and it's used ars

1312
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,760
old school was artificial augmented is

1313
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:23,359
well it's understood it's

1314
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,640
you know helping i i guess today's geeks

1315
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,440
need help

1316
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,119
we called it artificial we could handle

1317
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,800
the fact it wasn't real

1318
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,880
anyway so yeah you've got ar built into

1319
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:34,400
them so what's going to happen is and i

1320
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:35,839
show this in the video

1321
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:38,800
i show the hill star map um with the

1322
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,280
right

1323
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:42,079
astronomical data and the numbers are

1324
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,359
all there

1325
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,920
they're there deliberately so that ufo

1326
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:46,640
believers

1327
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,079
and hollywood producers like bryce zabel

1328
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,520
who exploits the whole case and is

1329
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:53,599
working on that exploitation movie

1330
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:56,079
about the hill case he licensed the book

1331
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,520
captured from friedman

1332
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,760
friedman suckered him i know that for a

1333
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,680
fact

1334
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:03,839
and what happened is uh this movie's

1335
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:05,440
gonna come out saying it's all real it's

1336
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,160
all good

1337
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:08,319
a believer and i warned him months ago

1338
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:09,680
this is coming out

1339
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:12,880
and he's ignored me he's right but

1340
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:15,920
he's called out so as you know i was the

1341
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:16,319
guy

1342
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:19,920
who ran the trap between friedman

1343
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:23,200
and the skeptics over the hill map to

1344
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,480
see who was correct

1345
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,960
and i ended up taking it yeah you're the

1346
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,240
guy who originally

1347
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:31,680
that the barney and benny hill star map

1348
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:33,200
is

1349
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,839
right but that was only after analyzing

1350
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:38,000
everyone else's data because my point to

1351
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,280
stan friedman was

1352
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:41,359
both sides can't be right he said well

1353
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,960
go check it out and get back to me kid

1354
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:44,559
type thing well i did a year later he

1355
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:45,440
was shocked

1356
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,040
thick file and in the book you see

1357
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,760
these documents original correspondence

1358
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:52,960
and you also see

1359
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,760
uh the astronomical data from the parkos

1360
00:53:02,790 --> 00:52:56,640
and

1361
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,800
who's introduced in the video as well i

1362
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:05,040
show his resume and cv he's my former

1363
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,559
roommate at apple polaris

1364
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,960
he knows where all my bodies are buried

1365
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,559
so to speak he knows about

1366
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:12,720
everything from government work to

1367
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,680
secret stuff to

1368
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:15,440
stuff we did at apple we were doing

1369
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,119
multimedia before there was a web

1370
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,119
browser he was using pixar renderman

1371
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,520
before steve jobs bought it from

1372
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:24,480
we were rendering starfleet enterprise

1373
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:24,960
stuff

1374
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:27,920
overnight on our 25 megahertz old mac

1375
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:28,640
you know

1376
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,760
two ci's and 33 megahertz mach 2 correct

1377
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,760
that brings back memories because i did

1378
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:36,160
i used amigas and lightwave but i didn't

1379
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:37,200
have a big box

1380
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:41,760
that you could actually render on

1381
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,079
i had it the the stock like eight

1382
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,760
megahertz and i would leave it for like

1383
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,480
four days to render a c

1384
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,440
four days just let it go you know it was

1385
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,800
so old and slow but

1386
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,640
the software was so powerful it's just

1387
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,079
that i didn't have the money to buy

1388
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:58,319
the upgrades you know so you could do it

1389
00:54:01,829 --> 00:54:00,400
in a reasonable time frame

1390
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:01,839
but you've been doing this stuff longer

1391
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,400
than me even which is crazy

1392
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,200
well i'm i was on the hypercar team and

1393
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:09,359
the hyper car team's big contribution

1394
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,000
was the hyperlink and uh

1395
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,680
you know that drives multimedia today

1396
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,119
apple has a patent for it

1397
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,559
and they could charge money every time

1398
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,920
you click on a link but they don't

1399
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,440
they're not microsoft

1400
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:21,119
yeah and for those that don't know like

1401
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,640
you know i have this little computer

1402
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,920
company and i've been working on this

1403
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,800
prototype and

1404
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,880
operating system and i want kalkwarf to

1405
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,640
be on the board of directors if this

1406
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:30,240
thing ever flies

1407
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:32,559
because he's got all of this experience

1408
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:34,079
with so much technology

1409
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,520
and that's something that a lot of

1410
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:37,200
people don't know about you you know

1411
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,559
that cowlick

1412
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,640
you're known for being the skeptic

1413
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:42,400
debunker

1414
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:45,040
blowing holes and all these

1415
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,160
stories

1416
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:48,640
but you also have this huge background

1417
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,240
in technology

1418
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:52,880
right there at the creation of so many

1419
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:53,599
things

1420
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,040
it's amazing to me yeah because um

1421
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:59,040
that's because i had to compartmentalize

1422
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,480
my life and this

1423
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:01,839
little short story i'm going to share

1424
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,799
with you which is now becoming public

1425
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,680
um when i left the u.s in 2000 left

1426
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:09,839
boeing and went to work in europe

1427
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:13,280
i left my archives here and

1428
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,480
uh they were full of a lot of stuff and

1429
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:18,559
i was stanton friedman's archivist when

1430
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:19,280
we were

1431
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,240
near each other and i kept a lot of

1432
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:24,079
stuff that was relevant to today's

1433
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,960
things

1434
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,200
so make a long story short i was in the

1435
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,680
media a lot as a kid teaching at age 13

1436
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:31,119
and lecturing and all that stuff

1437
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,880
so-called prodigy child finished high

1438
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,400
school in three years etc

1439
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,079
all that stuff is in the book the full

1440
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,319
bio but then what happened is i met a

1441
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,160
guy named steve jobs

1442
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,640
and he changed my life and i was

1443
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,400
interested in police work and forensics

1444
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,400
and that's ironic because

1445
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,799
you see in the wendell book where i was

1446
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:50,079
in my life

1447
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,880
and how i used forensics to nail wendell

1448
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:53,760
stevens

1449
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,480
over the letters that it was really him

1450
00:56:02,549 --> 00:55:58,720
as the author of this so-called

1451
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:02,559
witness and um i still have i'm putting

1452
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,280
it in my autobiography the actual uh

1453
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,200
hydrant test kits we were using in the

1454
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:08,880
training manuals because i was going to

1455
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,640
go off into police work and i was

1456
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,359
studying

1457
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:13,440
for criminal justice major i wanted to

1458
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:14,400
solve cases

1459
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,480
happened was um

1460
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:20,880
i met a guy named steve jobs and he

1461
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,480
showed me this macintosh they were

1462
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,599
working on he said

1463
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:24,960
it's going to change the world i'm like

1464
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:27,520
you always say that well

1465
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:30,400
it certainly changed my life and yeah

1466
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,119
and i'm

1467
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:33,040
there at the rollout of the mac you can

1468
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:34,640
actually see me in the

1469
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,640
uncropped videos i'm wandering up and

1470
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,720
down the aisles there because i'm

1471
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,079
providing security

1472
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,040
uh for the project i'm ahead of it there

1473
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,640
were undercover securities that were

1474
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:46,160
armed but they wouldn't advertise that

1475
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:47,040
of course

1476
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,480
and i was converted by the time it

1477
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,079
debuted because i got to finally

1478
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,079
see everything put together that barely

1479
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,160
worked for the demo but it worked

1480
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,280
and i knew at that point i was gonna

1481
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,520
dump police work and go into i.t and

1482
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,200
computing i knew the graphic

1483
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:05,520
stuff was the future and i loved the

1484
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:07,359
idea that you could

1485
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:09,040
have something be connected to something

1486
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,480
else because i'd come up with that idea

1487
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:11,760
when i was in sixth grade

1488
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:14,559
you can ask my mom uh she'll still

1489
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:15,520
confirm this

1490
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:18,240
but quickly she had a white little desk

1491
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,200
for me

1492
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,920
and i came home one day and uh i cleared

1493
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:23,280
everything off and i

1494
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,839
i had these really bright strips of

1495
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:27,839
paper and i used to be able to draw back

1496
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,160
then

1497
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:30,400
i would draw these little icons i would

1498
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,839
just call them tiny pictures i didn't

1499
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,040
know the word icon

1500
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,240
in sixth grade and um i scotch taped

1501
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,680
them to the top of my desk

1502
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,760
laid it out like you would on the

1503
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,440
enterprise the old classic enterprise

1504
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,680
with all those nice buttons

1505
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,520
my mom comes in and she's like why did

1506
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:47,680
you scotch tape

1507
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,240
the furniture i said mom i made my

1508
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:51,920
computer i just don't have the parts but

1509
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:52,319
look

1510
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:53,839
got the button does this i don't have a

1511
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:56,000
command i just hit this and yeah you

1512
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,400
know

1513
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:58,640
a lot of like like i used to make i used

1514
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,000
to make um

1515
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:02,799
i was big on dos and i used to make

1516
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,440
menus

1517
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:06,240
with antsy that was like incredible for

1518
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:06,640
being

1519
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,599
antsy oh fancy good old man yeah good

1520
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,040
old dancing right

1521
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,599
yeah yeah all this kind of same kind of

1522
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:14,799
stuff

1523
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:18,559
yeah so uh just i don't know if you sent

1524
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:18,880
me

1525
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:26,309
it said it arrived successfully so um

1526
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,359
anyway so

1527
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:29,920
uh i show this in the video and then i

1528
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,480
show

1529
00:58:34,630 --> 00:58:32,799
what we're going to do and i use the

1530
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,640
window book as an example

1531
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:36,720
i show that with artificial reality or

1532
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,480
augmented reality we can do anything

1533
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,720
and the idea is to do it accurately so

1534
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,400
there are some ufo cases out there that

1535
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:43,839
are going to be great to do when you

1536
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:45,920
point your stuff at billy meyer stuff

1537
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,839
and you see the fake ship rise up and

1538
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:49,440
fly into the tree because it's not

1539
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,000
really

1540
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:52,880
seven meters in size it's going to be

1541
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,280
fun

1542
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:55,440
and there's nothing mikey horn can do or

1543
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,319
anybody

1544
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,960
of the mcminnville oregon photos we're

1545
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,319
going to actually

1546
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:02,319
do the first artificial reality

1547
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,440
recreation of it

1548
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,760
bruce mcabee's agreed to be on the team

1549
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,839
the third original roswell researcher

1550
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:09,280
very good friend of mine on the fourth

1551
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:10,960
one were long-time buddies

1552
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:14,960
he's part of it roy's part of it and um

1553
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:18,000
we're we've agreed to do this last year

1554
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,760
been delayed by the pandemic but we're

1555
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,040
going to start it and we

1556
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,599
came up with this project in the 90s we

1557
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:25,119
just never got around to doing it we

1558
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:26,400
were hoping somebody would have done it

1559
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:27,040
by now

1560
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:30,079
but nobody's bothered so that's all in

1561
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,280
the video and you see

1562
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,680
rising up off of walking across the

1563
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:35,520
window book you see dinosaurs

1564
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:38,400
okay and i can control the dinosaurs and

1565
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,400
you see them stop on wendell's book and

1566
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,640
make noise and stop everywhere

1567
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,720
well and then i show the scale test we

1568
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,079
did in parking lots where all of a

1569
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:48,240
sudden you have a real tyrannosaurus rex

1570
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,599
at full size or

1571
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:52,720
uh yeah i saw i saw your uh

1572
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:55,839
your like depictions of this and that

1573
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:57,520
was enough to make me go wow i can't

1574
01:00:01,990 --> 00:59:58,480
wait to see this

1575
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,000
in real life so uh well saying this

1576
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,799
just so you know i don't have any link

1577
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:06,000
at my email

1578
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,319
truthseekers at trueseekersamgmail.com

1579
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,240
okay well i don't know if you can send a

1580
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,319
link in messenger or

1581
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,960
in twitter dm one way or the other try

1582
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,400
to send me the link another way

1583
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,880
and we'll see if we can't get that and i

1584
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:22,559
should mention that

1585
01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,359
i don't know that uh youtube really

1586
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:27,599
hates it when i go past two hours like i

1587
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:28,079
have to

1588
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:31,599
then

1589
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:35,359
uh re-upload it if you know what i mean

1590
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,559
yeah to be honest i think uh this is

1591
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:40,559
or you and i can just talk about all of

1592
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:42,000
this for the two hours

1593
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,559
and then i'll upload the video as a

1594
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:45,599
separate thing

1595
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:48,079
right after the stream ends and close

1596
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:48,640
that

1597
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,079
you know what to and then maybe you

1598
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:52,559
could come back and we'll do a talk on

1599
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,559
the video after people see it i think

1600
01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:56,000
that would probably be the best way to

1601
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,799
do it

1602
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,799
and i just want to try to stay within

1603
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,799
this two-hour window

1604
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,400
otherwise it's kind of a pain in the ass

1605
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:04,000
you know you got to take the old video

1606
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:04,480
down

1607
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:07,520
upload the new video it never youtube

1608
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:10,559
cuts at two hours i think sometimes they

1609
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:11,200
do

1610
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,720
it's to keep people from you know

1611
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,640
abusing it just like now if you want to

1612
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,240
do the picture in a picture

1613
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:19,200
4k you it's only available uh from the

1614
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:20,079
new

1615
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:23,520
ios for their premium subscribers

1616
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:26,720
you know so okay they're trying to cut

1617
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,280
corners

1618
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:29,680
but yeah it's paid software they're

1619
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:31,520
always nickel and diming yet for every

1620
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,240
little thing

1621
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:34,160
i don't like that i really try to stay

1622
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:35,920
in linux for everything

1623
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:39,200
i don't figure like there's got to be

1624
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:41,200
something to get done whatever i need to

1625
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:42,319
get done but

1626
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,280
you do lose that you know they're shiny

1627
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:47,200
and nice these creative clouds and

1628
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,079
things like that

1629
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:50,079
and they're easy right if you just got

1630
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:51,359
to get work done

1631
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:54,240
just you know pay the 20 bucks a month

1632
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:55,760
or whatever it is

1633
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,400
and try to uh and try to get your work

1634
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,839
done

1635
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,920
yeah it does make me wonder sometimes

1636
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:02,880
you know like

1637
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:06,160
how much how many billions are enough

1638
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,599
you know so but uh anyway um

1639
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:11,520
yeah satisfied with one that's my

1640
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:12,640
personal you know

1641
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,000
because i figure if you get to the

1642
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:16,640
billion you want that capitalism right

1643
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:19,520
you can never spend a billion dollars

1644
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:21,839
you just can't

1645
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,039
not sanely no uh so to speak but um

1646
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:28,079
anyway the uh um that is the best way

1647
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:29,280
because people are going to

1648
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:30,880
want to look at it and i'm happy to come

1649
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:32,880
on anytime and

1650
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:35,119
my schedule is is changing after this

1651
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,400
now because finally

1652
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,559
this stuff is coming out and i can't

1653
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:40,400
tell you how frustrating it's been you

1654
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:41,520
probably know the feeling

1655
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:43,359
to have nine things and i should

1656
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:44,559
apologize i

1657
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,880
i knew this was coming for a while but i

1658
01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:48,720
was kind of like uh

1659
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,559
i didn't really know which way to

1660
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:52,160
promote it because you got so much

1661
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,640
different

1662
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,720
information that you're going to be

1663
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:56,400
plowing out now

1664
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,799
that it's tough to uh it's it's tough to

1665
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:00,000
quantify and like

1666
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:04,559
figure out like okay it's so much

1667
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:08,160
i i understand um totally

1668
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,280
um so you see again that the

1669
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,039
this is again further on in the doors

1670
01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:17,119
you see the dinosaurs you see the

1671
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:19,920
full scale you did the idea as i say in

1672
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,200
the narration

1673
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:22,799
because as i watch these i would then

1674
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,319
talk and describe it so people

1675
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:25,839
understand what they're seeing even if

1676
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,920
they don't know about maya or whatever

1677
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,760
when you see the dinosaurs full scale

1678
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,039
and you see us walk

1679
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:33,839
under them and they're not really there

1680
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:34,559
um

1681
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:37,280
that could be a ufo scene it could be

1682
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:38,400
ufo photo

1683
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:41,039
made in 3d recreation could be a meyer

1684
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:42,720
scene whatever it doesn't matter

1685
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:44,559
could be the kennedy assassination that

1686
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:45,839
was done of course

1687
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,280
so it's to show people this is coming

1688
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,359
and we want to use this technology to

1689
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:53,760
take the investigations to a level

1690
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,640
that separates fact from fiction ufology

1691
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,000
versus eulogy

1692
01:04:01,829 --> 01:04:00,960
and friedman said euphology is when

1693
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:01,839
somebody

1694
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:03,760
makes conclusions or statements about

1695
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:06,000
ufos which are not derivable from the

1696
01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:06,640
data

1697
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:09,680
whereas ufology is when somebody studies

1698
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:10,559
uh

1699
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:13,680
ufo data scientifically okay fine

1700
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,119
so ufology ufologists are not going to

1701
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:19,599
lie to you they're not going to talk

1702
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,280
about contacts and

1703
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,480
and uh you know disclosure and

1704
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:26,640
that isn't gonna happen they're

1705
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:27,520
gonna tell you

1706
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,640
whatever the truth is and so um this is

1707
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,160
i think something long overdue

1708
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,799
and because we're now putting it in the

1709
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:36,960
realm of forensics

1710
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,280
it keeps a whole level of fraudulent

1711
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:40,799
amateurs

1712
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,680
from playing games and it busts so many

1713
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:44,400
people

1714
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:47,440
separating fact from fiction is

1715
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:48,240
important

1716
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:49,760
yeah that's the whole thing with me is

1717
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:52,000
like you know i

1718
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:53,680
have another friend that does a show and

1719
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:55,359
he's way on the wu side and

1720
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:58,400
and he always calls me a debunker and my

1721
01:05:00,950 --> 01:04:59,039
thing is

1722
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,960
i would love to live in a world where

1723
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,720
aliens are visiting us

1724
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,160
i would love to look at a world where we

1725
01:05:09,190 --> 01:05:06,640
have ufo crash retrievals

1726
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:09,200
that would be awesome but i want to know

1727
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,160
if it's true

1728
01:05:15,990 --> 01:05:13,440
or if these stories are not

1729
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:16,000
you know what they purport to be and

1730
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,079
there's so many people making money

1731
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:21,359
off of selling this ufo opium that

1732
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,559
to me there's a problem you know

1733
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,799
it's a big problem i want to know the

1734
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:28,160
truth though

1735
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:30,880
even if it's an ugly truth and the the

1736
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:32,720
ugly truth is that so many of these

1737
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,359
stories

1738
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:34,960
when you break them down and you

1739
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:37,200
actually go with evidence

1740
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:39,839
and real facts most of them don't hold

1741
01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:40,240
up

1742
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:43,520
and it's disappointing but

1743
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:46,480
we want to get to the truth yeah

1744
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:47,359
definitely

1745
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:50,720
and as the beginning of the

1746
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:53,520
video shows and i've you've put these

1747
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,480
slides together

1748
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,319
in i think the first appearance of data

1749
01:06:00,870 --> 01:05:57,839
on your show i

1750
01:06:01,910 --> 01:06:00,880
briefly recap how polarized the u.s has

1751
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:01,920
become

1752
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:05,119
and how it's um uh

1753
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,400
set for uh you have record numbers of

1754
01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:09,839
people who are polarized

1755
01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,200
and it's like if i criticize trump it

1756
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,200
must be because i support biden if i

1757
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:17,280
criticize biden it must be because i'm a

1758
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,400
trump supporter

1759
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,559
no i always say i think they're both i

1760
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:22,480
think that both sides are

1761
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:25,920
both sides of the coin are criminals

1762
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:28,799
it's just picking criminal that will do

1763
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:30,880
you and your family the least amount of

1764
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:33,520
harm that's what we've devolved into as

1765
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:34,160
a country

1766
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:37,280
lately in my view so i don't i just

1767
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:39,119
try not to pay attention i've got people

1768
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:40,559
that will like

1769
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:43,760
message me all day long anti-trump stuff

1770
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:44,960
and then i've got people that will

1771
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:45,760
message me

1772
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:49,680
all day long anti-biden stuff and for me

1773
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,240
i don't care it's not my circus they're

1774
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:53,839
both

1775
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:58,000
you

1776
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:01,520
i check out that's what i've been doing

1777
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:03,839
i understand most americans don't want

1778
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:04,559
either

1779
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,079
but the reason that i cover this

1780
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:10,160
is because it's relevant to today

1781
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:11,359
because

1782
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,200
one of the updates i give in the

1783
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:15,839
beginning to is the long overdue ttsa

1784
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,960
sec investigation update okay

1785
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:21,119
and when i say sec investigation let me

1786
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:22,480
be clear

1787
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,000
things were proceeding fine then

1788
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,039
ttsa changed the board uh

1789
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,520
membership they brought in a guy who has

1790
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,720
a proven

1791
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,640
record it's matter of public knowledge

1792
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:36,559
and sec files

1793
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:39,599
of uh questionable activities including

1794
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:41,119
pump and dumbbell

1795
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:43,680
and then i found out that yeah when you

1796
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,520
when you sent me this i looked into this

1797
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:47,359
guy and i couldn't i couldn't believe it

1798
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:49,839
i could not believe that anybody would

1799
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:52,240
put that guy on the board of anything

1800
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,319
if you look into his background no

1801
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:55,520
company

1802
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:58,160
would do that they've got to know that

1803
01:08:02,789 --> 01:07:59,760
he was involved in these things

1804
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:02,799
or they need someone with this sort of

1805
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:04,079
expertise

1806
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:07,760
that's what my thought was well

1807
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,960
when you when you bring in somebody who

1808
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,960
is connected with the phrase pump and

1809
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:14,640
dump what type of expertise are we

1810
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:15,599
talking about

1811
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:18,799
when i had conversations with people

1812
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:22,080
at sec and i will not tell you who but i

1813
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:23,359
will tell you they were certainly real

1814
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:24,960
and i've got recordings

1815
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:28,319
other stuff i found out that

1816
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:31,440
as a rule they have a process where they

1817
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:32,480
don't really

1818
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,480
vet these things in my opinion as they

1819
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:36,319
should it has to do with

1820
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:38,239
their staffing issues all that stuff

1821
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,920
fine whatever the excuses

1822
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,199
they're well-intentioned people very

1823
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:43,759
respectful nothing but admiration for

1824
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,759
them they just don't have the budget to

1825
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:48,239
do the kind of job i wish they could so

1826
01:08:53,189 --> 01:08:49,679
what happened was

1827
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:53,199
when he was brought in in the refiling

1828
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:56,480
it set off flags and i was told point

1829
01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:59,279
blank that now this has to slow down

1830
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:01,520
and i was told specifically that they

1831
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,400
had to go now

1832
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:04,560
check intelligence databases around the

1833
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:05,520
world

1834
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:08,239
to see if there was anything connected

1835
01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:09,279
anywhere

1836
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:12,319
that might be impactful or relevant

1837
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,920
and what happened was um

1838
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,679
that's when we started hearing rumors of

1839
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,600
offshore accounts with hal put off i

1840
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:20,960
have no idea if that's true

1841
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,319
it's one of the things that we're being

1842
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,960
looked at so the bottom line is i show

1843
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,799
the first page of the legal complaint

1844
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,960
that was being drafted

1845
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,120
and it's redacted because the final

1846
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,520
parties are not it's not a final thing

1847
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:35,279
and i simply say that this is going to

1848
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,560
continue now

1849
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:38,400
next year it's off the books for the

1850
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:39,920
rest of the year because of pandemic

1851
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,159
and whatever happens we'll let you know

1852
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:44,000
because i don't know

1853
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:45,520
again everything was heading in the

1854
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:47,839
right direction then this happened

1855
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:49,759
very frustrating but what can you do you

1856
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,679
know

1857
01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:54,080
so that's the update on that it's in the

1858
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:55,120
video

1859
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:58,159
um another update yes

1860
01:10:02,709 --> 01:09:59,520
we still got to get the link to the

1861
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:02,719
video sometime well i just got the link

1862
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,560
now to a second upload it's the same

1863
01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:08,400
thing do you want me to

1864
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:10,560
yeah send it send it to your email send

1865
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:11,440
it to my

1866
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,800
send it to facebook one way or the other

1867
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:18,480
i got to get the link to be able to

1868
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,760
share that

1869
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,520
but like i said i think that you and i

1870
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,040
will just finish our talk

1871
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:25,440
and then i'll upload that as a as its

1872
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:26,400
own video

1873
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:29,520
just here on here on the channel that

1874
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:31,120
would be the best way plus it gives

1875
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:32,800
people time to go through it and look

1876
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:34,000
and all that because they're going to

1877
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:34,800
have to

1878
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,360
think it through um they need to yeah i

1879
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:39,280
have a feeling that this is going to be

1880
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:42,000
a treasure trove of information and for

1881
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:43,679
those that are really interested in the

1882
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,080
truth behind so many of these subjects

1883
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,239
and what's really going on behind the

1884
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,400
scenes of some of these things

1885
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:52,080
this is going to be very valuable and

1886
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:53,920
i'm glad that we can host it here

1887
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,000
thank you for uh sparing it and it's an

1888
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,320
exclusive on truth seekers

1889
01:11:01,430 --> 01:11:00,480
yeah absolutely and there's a few other

1890
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,440
things which uh

1891
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:03,520
i can describe them and um you know

1892
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,679
they'll be online for purchase uh in the

1893
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,960
next few days

1894
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,960
we're opening the ufology euphology

1895
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:10,400
store so

1896
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:12,640
for example when you buy one of um our

1897
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:15,199
mugs about the meyer case

1898
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:17,199
okay it shows you a beautiful meyer

1899
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:19,520
photo an original meyer photo that i got

1900
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,880
in switzerland from meyer

1901
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:23,199
okay when he gave him to his neighbors

1902
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:24,239
many years ago

1903
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:27,679
okay original pristine stuff is it real

1904
01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:28,000
though

1905
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,679
it says whatever they say then when you

1906
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,199
pour hot liquid in it

1907
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,600
up pops the truth okay so all of a

1908
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:35,360
sudden you see that string in there

1909
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:39,679
okay you see whatever was found

1910
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:42,000
and you know i can just imagine what's

1911
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:43,280
going to happen in the future i'll be

1912
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:44,960
having coffee somewhere

1913
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,199
some new age meyer net will you know do

1914
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,800
their thing and we'll talk about it and

1915
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:50,480
i'll place a little bet with them

1916
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:52,480
just to you know prank them and then

1917
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:54,640
i'll pour the coffee and there you go

1918
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:56,719
fake ships of the pleiades so it's part

1919
01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:58,239
of the new fake ships

1920
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,080
project and basically every major case

1921
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:04,320
of the meyer thing is being broken up

1922
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:05,280
into several

1923
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:08,400
separate volumes so that if you want to

1924
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,920
know about this photo that photo

1925
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:11,360
whatever everyone has their favorite

1926
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:12,400
meyer photo

1927
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,400
we give you a step-by-step guide that

1928
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:16,480
shows you exactly how to make your own

1929
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,679
fake ship

1930
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:19,199
but what we don't tell you how to do is

1931
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:21,199
start your own ufo sex cult we won't go

1932
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:21,600
there

1933
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,360
okay you know and that's on my list of

1934
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:25,360
things to do i want to get some up caps

1935
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:26,000
and

1936
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,760
tried but i think that i could make

1937
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,800
pictures

1938
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:32,880
like maybe here at the cabin you know

1939
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:35,920
yeah three lines or i can hang some

1940
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,480
between

1941
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:38,320
trees here at the cabin and just leave

1942
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,520
them because they're

1943
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:42,000
it's fun right and it's and it's funny

1944
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:43,199
and i can take pictures

1945
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,560
of all different angles of it yeah it

1946
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,960
i'll tell you once you clear the tree

1947
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,880
line it looks so real

1948
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:52,159
there were times when i was first

1949
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:53,920
launching these in switzerland

1950
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,440
where i'm like okay because i can't get

1951
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,880
caught doing it too i had to be like

1952
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:58,159
billy meyer

1953
01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:00,800
and there were more people there and so

1954
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,840
um

1955
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,520
once it takes off above the tree line

1956
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,960
you just stare at it for a moment oh

1957
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,480
i got to take the photo

1958
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,640
but um yeah it's just really something

1959
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,679
to see uh

1960
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,360
you know a simple experiment is just

1961
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:13,440
capture the sun sitting on top of

1962
01:13:16,950 --> 01:13:14,880
something it's an illusion

1963
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:16,960
but you just have to position yourself

1964
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,000
so by

1965
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,920
explaining the who what where why when

1966
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:21,199
how of

1967
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:23,520
all of this this is what we're doing and

1968
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:24,320
then

1969
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:27,280
there's the issue of politics okay as i

1970
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:29,520
explain in the harry reid presentation

1971
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,400
which was

1972
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,480
done for roy and some investigators you

1973
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,800
see that you have slides from that

1974
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,679
the idea that harry reid would take

1975
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:39,600
taxpayer money from black budget give it

1976
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,480
to a donor

1977
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,880
who owns a hotel chain who can tell him

1978
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,159
about the paranormal

1979
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:46,159
because everything that's paranormal and

1980
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,199
ufo wise

1981
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:48,800
is happening at one place called

1982
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:50,880
skinwalker ranch which the guy happens

1983
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:52,159
to own

1984
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:54,640
oh come on you're really gonna do that

1985
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:56,320
give this guy millions of dollars

1986
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:59,040
such a farce it needs to be investigated

1987
01:14:02,550 --> 01:13:59,840
at the ig

1988
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:02,560
level okay it's a bit of a problem with

1989
01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:03,920
this administration

1990
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:06,560
so as i said to me that you know like

1991
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:08,159
harry reid has been involved in like

1992
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,400
let's give my friends money

1993
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,320
you know like let's give my friends a

1994
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,480
bunch of government money and

1995
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:16,719
what value do we get for the for what

1996
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:18,239
they've spent

1997
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,199
i don't i don't find value in any of it

1998
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:23,040
but somebody's making a ton of

1999
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:23,520
money

2000
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:26,560
off the government uh interest

2001
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:29,040
or so-called investigation into some of

2002
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:30,880
these things

2003
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:33,520
yeah and and what they do is they get

2004
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:35,040
the contractors to

2005
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,760
you know agree what documents belong to

2006
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,440
them and that's enter non-disclosure so

2007
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,520
the government can legally say

2008
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:43,679
no we can't find it whatever it's all a

2009
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:46,239
game but the idea that

2010
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:48,000
some guy who wants a hotel chain with

2011
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:50,080
all due respect to mr bigelow

2012
01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:51,360
could tell them something they didn't

2013
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,719
already know especially if there's a

2014
01:14:56,310 --> 01:14:54,320
cosmic watergate

2015
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:56,320
i'm sorry you can't have it both ways

2016
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,400
and then

2017
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,239
no matter what happens no matter who

2018
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:01,840
wins the election this whole thing

2019
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,840
cannot be really dealt with until after

2020
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:06,480
the ufo task force comes back with their

2021
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:09,760
you know token report and kamala harris

2022
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:12,080
the shadow president of the us if biden

2023
01:15:15,270 --> 01:15:13,840
wins let's be honest

2024
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,280
what are we going to do on the task

2025
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:16,880
force same with rubio

2026
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:19,920
same with feinstein oh my god

2027
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,840
these people are in charge of the ufo

2028
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:23,600
issue are you nuts

2029
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:26,640
how convenient for black ops and trying

2030
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,040
to

2031
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:29,760
you know full pilots and test your darpa

2032
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:30,320
stuff

2033
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,640
you got a bunch of people sitting on

2034
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:33,920
this thing that

2035
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,640
wouldn't know darpa from zeta reticulin

2036
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:40,640
yeah i've often thought that that most

2037
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:42,239
of the things

2038
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:45,440
are black projects or usaps that we just

2039
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:47,120
aren't supposed to know about we're not

2040
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:48,560
supposed to know

2041
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:52,000
and yes uh there have been proven you

2042
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,320
know

2043
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:54,880
there's history of like a government

2044
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:56,159
project being

2045
01:16:02,550 --> 01:15:59,679
tested and they didn't let other

2046
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,560
air force or another branch of the

2047
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,239
service know that they were testing in

2048
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:06,480
that area and they

2049
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:10,640
got wind of some of this stuff so

2050
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,840
yeah in fact and it's one hand

2051
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:15,600
doesn't know what the other hand is

2052
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:18,080
doing literally

2053
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,400
right but that's also necessary up to a

2054
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:22,080
point heinek for example

2055
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:25,280
uh when i would spend time with him like

2056
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:26,719
in sonora

2057
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:28,480
i asked him you know what were some of

2058
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,920
the things that really bugged you that

2059
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,360
really pissed you off still

2060
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,199
now about project blue book in your

2061
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,360
tenure he told me point blank that

2062
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,960
there were times that the air force

2063
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:38,400
would just lie to him

2064
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:40,080
and he could tell because he knew some

2065
01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:41,520
of the people

2066
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:44,239
and he didn't like that and he he said

2067
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,920
even if they had told me it's classified

2068
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:48,880
that would have been

2069
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,239
something but just don't act like

2070
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,000
you think i'm an idiot you know or i

2071
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:55,679
don't know you're not

2072
01:17:01,830 --> 01:16:58,960
telling me the truth so um

2073
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:01,840
the sr-71 which was silver back then in

2074
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,560
initially

2075
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:05,199
that was a specific example they didn't

2076
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:06,880
tell him or the air force that they were

2077
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,719
flying that cia was

2078
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:10,800
nci built it with skunk works at

2079
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,280
lockheed exclusive arrangement

2080
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:15,280
that stuff goes on now i think the tic

2081
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:16,880
tacs are part of this thing

2082
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:20,000
but the point is um no matter what's

2083
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,520
going to happen on the task force

2084
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:23,199
it's going to happen after the election

2085
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:25,040
even if trump wins

2086
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:26,480
so nothing is going to be done in the

2087
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:28,159
harry reid thing at all

2088
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:29,600
until the election and then you're

2089
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:31,520
really looking at after january and then

2090
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,040
let's say the democrats

2091
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,199
win do you think they're really going to

2092
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:37,120
go after harry reid for what he did

2093
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:41,520
no so it's it's not going to happen

2094
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,800
the covet thing didn't help i'm hoping

2095
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,840
at some point

2096
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:47,840
some ig thing will come in there and at

2097
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:50,080
least stop this from happening again

2098
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:52,320
fleecing the taxpayers if we do that

2099
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:53,120
that's victory

2100
01:17:57,510 --> 01:17:55,360
right now it's wide open to be fleeced

2101
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,520
again when i heard about the task force

2102
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,280
other than the stupid principle behind

2103
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,960
it my first thought were

2104
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,640
let me guess there's probably

2105
01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:04,000
contractors in there

2106
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:06,800
like maybe davis or putoff getting their

2107
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,040
piece of that pie to help the task force

2108
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,199
brief them whatever whatever they can do

2109
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,280
to you know earn money right

2110
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:15,520
and you know that's a real problem for

2111
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:17,679
credibility

2112
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:20,560
yeah so you know uh we're i still don't

2113
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:22,400
have a a link to the video but

2114
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:24,960
you know i did i sent it you're uh on

2115
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,080
your twitter there

2116
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:28,239
oh there we go now i think i got it okay

2117
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:30,000
that was a fast way

2118
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:34,000
so yeah let's see if we uh

2119
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:50,229
transfer expires in seven days okay i'm

2120
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:51,600
downloading it now

2121
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,800
so so um it

2122
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:56,640
again shows visually what i've been

2123
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:58,080
talking about

2124
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,040
um you've seen the harry reid uh

2125
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,040
briefing on ttsa and

2126
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:04,800
some of the sec stuff it was just

2127
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:07,199
confidential now i'm showing some of it

2128
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:09,440
you had hundreds of these slides uh in

2129
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,400
previously

2130
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:13,120
and then i'm so happy that you got to

2131
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:14,880
sort of collate all this data

2132
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:17,280
and jam it into a video because i think

2133
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:19,040
it's going to be uh

2134
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,719
like i said it's like a treasure trove

2135
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,800
of data and facts and evidence of

2136
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:24,480
what's going on behind the scenes of all

2137
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,080
this ufology

2138
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:28,480
stuff well i'm gonna i want to make

2139
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:29,440
another announcement

2140
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:31,760
which i didn't really go into uh in

2141
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:34,159
there but you see the book it's

2142
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:37,199
volume five it's coming after

2143
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:39,520
the hillbook expose book which has the

2144
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:40,320
first

2145
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:43,360
software attached to it the stuff roy's

2146
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:44,800
working on

2147
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:48,800
the next one is um about the roswell

2148
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:51,440
ufo debris switch it tells you this the

2149
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:53,679
conspiracy behind the roswell ufo debris

2150
01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:54,719
switch

2151
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:56,239
and what happened stephen is

2152
01:20:02,630 --> 01:19:58,960
unexpectedly the original photos

2153
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,640
that jesse marcel had that he gave

2154
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,760
to bill moore eight and a half by ten

2155
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:06,639
black and whites

2156
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:09,360
of the debris have been found they were

2157
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,239
found

2158
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:12,080
i i got them from bill moore when we did

2159
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:13,840
a press event because when i saw the

2160
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:15,600
uncropped debris photos i was

2161
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,920
pissed i was like okay here we go again

2162
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:19,600
only this time it's roswell

2163
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,600
not the hill case so i had to go to

2164
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:22,880
friedman

2165
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:24,400
i showed him these photos i said hey

2166
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:26,000
bill gave me these photos

2167
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:29,440
he let me keep them um you can clearly

2168
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:29,920
see

2169
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:32,560
that this is not an alien spaceship what

2170
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:33,120
the

2171
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,679
you know what stan so he looks at me

2172
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:37,120
through his glasses and i'll never

2173
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:38,800
forget seeing his eyes get a little big

2174
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,080
because you know sometimes his eyes were

2175
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,320
a little distorted because of the lenses

2176
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,000
and he said um there must have been a

2177
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,080
debris switch then

2178
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:49,280
really stan that's reaching for no your

2179
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:49,920
witness

2180
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,360
is wrong and the whole thing is over

2181
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:55,120
nothing i don't know what it was

2182
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,520
somebody's kite wasn't that of course

2183
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:59,840
but it's not a spaceship the metals all

2184
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:00,960
over the floor

2185
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:03,120
you can even see the decayed balloon

2186
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,199
right there and of course it smells like

2187
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,040
burnt rubber when it's been in the sun

2188
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:09,760
everyone reported that so it all fit and

2189
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:10,960
i was so

2190
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:14,560
pissed off that i then distanced myself

2191
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,280
from friedman

2192
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:17,280
met him with the third roswell

2193
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,480
researcher in a

2194
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,080
private meeting in berkeley and said

2195
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,800
look they're using you man

2196
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:24,560
to further an agenda you are a useful

2197
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:26,800
idiot for these people dodie

2198
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:29,679
mj-12 it's all but he wouldn't

2199
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:30,239
listen

2200
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:31,679
he was i'm going to be the one to blow

2201
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:33,600
up in the cosmic watergate

2202
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:37,440
maybe stan but not with these things so

2203
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:39,360
i didn't know these photos had survived

2204
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:41,360
stephen

2205
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:44,800
um they're now in my possession anybody

2206
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:45,840
can date them they probably have

2207
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,440
friedman's prints on them still and bill

2208
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:49,360
moore's and marcel

2209
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,040
i'm going to release them and it exposes

2210
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:55,199
how all the other researchers like kevin

2211
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,159
randle handled this

2212
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:58,639
issue and also just want to stop you for

2213
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:00,560
a minute so that people realize

2214
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:03,440
how important this kind of release could

2215
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:03,760
be

2216
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:06,080
so these are pictures of the original

2217
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,080
roswell debris

2218
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:10,080
with jesse marcel sort of like the

2219
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:11,920
famous one that we've all seen but you

2220
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:12,320
have

2221
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,320
not seen of this roswell debris and

2222
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:20,639
jesse marcel correct

2223
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:24,960
not quite yes and no what i have is

2224
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:27,280
when i saw the roswell debris it was

2225
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:29,440
cropped in the roswell incident book by

2226
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,639
bill moore

2227
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,880
what i noticed in that photo was the

2228
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:34,800
rainy memo

2229
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:37,280
and i mentioned that to the third

2230
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,800
roswell researcher who was very good

2231
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:40,320
friend of mine and he said he'd noticed

2232
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:41,679
it too

2233
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:44,000
so we thought well we'll put it in the

2234
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,840
gray basket and get around to it one day

2235
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:47,440
now this is in the 70s

2236
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,960
so i have to laugh at people like dave

2237
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:51,360
rudiak who discovered the rainy memo

2238
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:54,880
anyway so what happened is

2239
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:57,040
um bill moore comes out to see me in

2240
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:57,920
december

2241
01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:00,480
of 1980 he wants to publish my myer

2242
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:03,120
expose book he's paying for this

2243
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,520
which he edited and later was published

2244
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,040
the meyer incident

2245
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:09,520
so he and i he said can you book a press

2246
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:11,280
thing for us while i'm in town yeah no

2247
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:11,920
problem

2248
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:14,159
so i booked a reporter i was well known

2249
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,760
they came over to my apartment in

2250
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,040
fremont

2251
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:19,440
and bill brings with him the debris

2252
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:20,159
photos

2253
01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:24,080
uncropped and he had seen jesse marcel

2254
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,440
and he's like yeah jesse says this is it

2255
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:29,199
here's why he's explaining all stuff

2256
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:32,000
okay well nobody knew what the debris

2257
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:32,400
was

2258
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:44,239
who what where why when how so

2259
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:47,280
when i saw the uncropped photos to be

2260
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:48,080
honest

2261
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:50,320
my only thought was the rainy memo i

2262
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:51,120
thought wow

2263
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:53,280
this is so clear from the original next

2264
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,719
we might be able to blow this up and

2265
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,080
read this damn thing

2266
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:57,840
so i said bill can i have him he says

2267
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,199
sure well okay i didn't tell him why

2268
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:03,360
so he gave me the photos and i kept them

2269
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:04,800
the article appears in the paper

2270
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,600
i have never put it on the internet

2271
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:09,440
screw everyone who thinks i'm lying

2272
01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:11,280
i don't have time for them and mostly

2273
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:12,639
articles about me have never been on the

2274
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,920
internet didn't exist back then and

2275
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:15,199
they're not going to put them on unless

2276
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:16,320
i bother

2277
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:19,120
so i i pepper these idiots once in a

2278
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:19,679
while

2279
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:22,800
these you know ufo stalkers

2280
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:25,040
is what they are who say i do this or

2281
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:26,320
don't do that i say well what about this

2282
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,440
article you know and

2283
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:29,760
just laugh at it you know my teachers

2284
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,679
who remember all this are all on

2285
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,560
facebook

2286
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:34,719
but they never get any inquiries because

2287
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:35,760
these people know

2288
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:38,159
they're full of not my teachers but

2289
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:39,760
their they play

2290
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:42,800
so one question that i have though is

2291
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:43,280
didn't

2292
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:46,080
even jesse marcel say there was a switch

2293
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:46,400
or

2294
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,239
that the debris was switched you know so

2295
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,320
the conspiracy is generally like no no

2296
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:56,800
it was an alien spacecraft but then

2297
01:25:00,550 --> 01:24:59,760
jess marcel went there and they switched

2298
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:00,560
out the real

2299
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,679
alien debris for basically a weather

2300
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:05,040
balloon

2301
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:07,280
did that originate with with stan

2302
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:09,199
friedman or did jesse marcel

2303
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:11,679
also say that there was a debris switch

2304
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,560
um

2305
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,239
i'll answer that in a moment i just need

2306
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:15,920
to fill in the in between before we get

2307
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,000
that because that is the conclusion

2308
01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,800
um so what happens is uh i get these

2309
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:22,159
photos

2310
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,159
bill moore leaves we agree on the meyer

2311
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:26,080
thing i have to get the book to him

2312
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:28,239
by may before summer fine he's paying

2313
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:29,600
for all great

2314
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:32,080
all right so i then call my buddy the

2315
01:25:34,470 --> 01:25:32,639
third

2316
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,480
researcher in roswell i say hey you

2317
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:36,320
won't believe what i got in my hands

2318
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:38,639
i said i got the i got the stuff bill

2319
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:39,600
has you know

2320
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,440
i said let's go down to al reid's place

2321
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:42,960
i'll read was doing the graphics he had

2322
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:43,920
his own graphics

2323
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:46,239
cameras all that for the meijer thing

2324
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,520
and i said let's let's

2325
01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:49,360
let's blow this up and see what's there

2326
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:50,639
so he came over

2327
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:53,120
spent a couple days at my house and we

2328
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:54,800
went through with an actual loop and

2329
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,920
everything else

2330
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,440
and what he did was a brilliant thing he

2331
01:26:02,629 --> 01:25:59,520
took a grid a

2332
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:02,639
piece of grid paper and he made a grid

2333
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:06,400
you know uh top down left right

2334
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,440
so that each space read on the memo

2335
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:11,360
filled in a space on the grid and he'd

2336
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:13,040
use a different character if he wasn't

2337
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:14,560
sure of that character

2338
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:16,159
uh meaning there was a certainty

2339
01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:17,440
sometimes you can see certain letters

2340
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:18,800
sometimes you were guessing

2341
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:20,400
others you figured out what the word was

2342
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:21,920
based on letters you could identify

2343
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:23,360
process of elimination

2344
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:26,080
others could be those or these you know

2345
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:27,040
so

2346
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:31,199
a rough handwritten deciphering of this

2347
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:34,880
rainy memo came out and what was found

2348
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,320
was it had nothing to do with

2349
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:40,800
any orders from raymie about oh lie

2350
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:42,320
about this cover-up

2351
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:44,159
tell him it's a weather bloom whatever

2352
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,080
because that's the story that we hear

2353
01:26:48,790 --> 01:26:48,080
from the people that support this memo

2354
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:48,800
being

2355
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:51,920
you know crash bodies they

2356
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,719
they find different words than than you

2357
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,639
and other researchers have failed on

2358
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:57,840
this memo

2359
01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:01,120
right so what happened was because there

2360
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:02,560
was nothing there

2361
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:05,679
to make it a smoking gun we

2362
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,080
just forgot about it and then decades

2363
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:10,000
later dave rudiak and these guys

2364
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:11,120
discover

2365
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:13,120
what's always been under their nose and

2366
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:14,639
they're reading all kinds of stuff into

2367
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:15,679
this

2368
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:18,080
in the meantime what happened to answer

2369
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:19,600
your question was

2370
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:22,480
when i confronted friedman over these um

2371
01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:24,080
i said stan

2372
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,600
the case is closed now and now i've got

2373
01:27:28,390 --> 01:27:27,520
to get back to bill moore and find out

2374
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:28,400
why he's still

2375
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:31,280
excited about this case because i

2376
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,360
there's no spaceship here

2377
01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:35,199
and it bothered me that marcel never

2378
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:37,360
described any spacecraft

2379
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,840
none of the original witnesses did zero

2380
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,199
and that's a fact

2381
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:43,199
and it's a lie to say they did there was

2382
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:44,480
no spaceship engine

2383
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:47,600
discovered nothing in fact

2384
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,520
bessie brazil mac brazil the farmer's

2385
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,920
daughter specifically said because she

2386
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:55,280
was a young girl

2387
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,360
that she had very vivid memories of

2388
01:28:03,350 --> 01:27:59,040
putting her

2389
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:03,360
wrist through a round o-ring

2390
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:05,520
because it reminded her of a bracelet

2391
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:07,120
for a little girl and a little girl

2392
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:07,760
would do that

2393
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:11,280
more than a guy might and when she drew

2394
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:13,600
what she drew her hand through and the

2395
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:15,040
assembly that

2396
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,880
came off of that it was an o ring

2397
01:28:22,149 --> 01:28:19,120
attached to a mobile balloon array

2398
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:22,159
and it fits so what happened is there

2399
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:23,840
was an amazing meeting

2400
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:26,960
years ago and i found out about this

2401
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,840
from not from friedman because he he

2402
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,760
didn't deny it but he didn't volunteer

2403
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:33,600
it i'll just put it that way

2404
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:37,120
what happened was when i got to

2405
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:39,120
kept hanging out with bill moore

2406
01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:40,639
friedman screwed bill moore

2407
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,239
out of a lot of money friedman

2408
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:46,320
had discovered roswell but moore wrote

2409
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:47,520
the book with

2410
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,920
berlitz wrote most of it got all the

2411
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,760
money so on friedman had a real problem

2412
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,960
with that so

2413
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:55,120
he finally gets a book contract crash at

2414
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:56,320
corona

2415
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:58,719
but he doesn't tell more about it and

2416
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:00,560
they were supposed to

2417
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:03,120
co-author and split money six months go

2418
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:03,600
by

2419
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:05,840
and moore finds out because he smells

2420
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:06,639
publishers

2421
01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:09,520
i find out bill asked me do i know

2422
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:10,880
anything i tell him what i know i don't

2423
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:12,560
know stan's playing games

2424
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:15,600
and what happens is stan um um

2425
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:17,440
basically was i discovered everything

2426
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:19,520
i'm the guy i'm heineck

2427
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:24,080
2.0 done the right way flying physicist

2428
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:25,440
because one of the first things he did

2429
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,080
which really threw me when i met him

2430
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,560
is he starts bashing heinek i i came up

2431
01:29:33,669 --> 01:29:32,239
to him as a stranger i said hi

2432
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,679
my name is cal court from here to

2433
01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:35,679
interview you for my teacher

2434
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,840
he doesn't believe in ufos i do can you

2435
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:39,040
know interview i'd never

2436
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:42,719
heard of freeman met him okay hit it off

2437
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:44,239
started lecturing right after he did

2438
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:45,440
because i knew everything he was talking

2439
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:46,480
about

2440
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:50,080
and um then um what happened is uh he's

2441
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,120
bashing heinek

2442
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,960
you know oh he's too soft don't be

2443
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,880
whatever he was clearly

2444
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,719
jealous of heineken he wished he had

2445
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,239
been head of blue book

2446
01:30:02,390 --> 01:30:00,320
instead he kept stressing to me how he

2447
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:02,400
got to testify before congress

2448
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:05,920
no big deal okay anyway so friedman now

2449
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:07,760
has a problem

2450
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:10,880
marcel is saying stan this is what

2451
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:14,000
i held yes so what happened is

2452
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:15,520
friedman says no there must have been a

2453
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:18,560
debris switch you're wrong jesse

2454
01:30:22,709 --> 01:30:21,840
after a period of time oh cameras were

2455
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:22,719
on

2456
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:24,880
jesse would say what friedman wanted him

2457
01:30:29,430 --> 01:30:27,120
to but let me tell you what jeff

2458
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:29,440
i have heard him in an interview saying

2459
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:30,400
that they

2460
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:33,440
they switched the debris right strange

2461
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,239
to me

2462
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:36,719
because the pictures are you know are

2463
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,360
there

2464
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:39,280
but it's i guess it's an unbelievable

2465
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:41,120
story that they would

2466
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:44,320
make him a patsy like okay

2467
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:46,480
uh pose with this with this weather

2468
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,800
balloon and let's hide the flying saucer

2469
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:50,480
at ray patterson

2470
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:53,600
sounds like a great story and it sounds

2471
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:55,920
plausible that that could happen

2472
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:58,320
as a cover-up it does but there's a

2473
01:31:01,110 --> 01:31:00,000
couple of problems with that and this is

2474
01:31:02,870 --> 01:31:01,120
stuff friedman

2475
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,880
or randall or nobody will tell you and

2476
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,880
it's in the book

2477
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,639
so what you see is you see the same

2478
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:09,120
photos that bill moore gave me

2479
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:11,199
they are the original they're decades

2480
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:12,560
old

2481
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:15,280
they're not fakes unlike mj 12 they can

2482
01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:16,000
be forensically

2483
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:17,520
tested so if anybody says i'm not

2484
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:19,120
telling the truth they know what they

2485
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:21,199
can do with that claim

2486
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:25,199
um now marcel has said this is what we

2487
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:28,639
taught those same photos were then shown

2488
01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:31,840
to one of the men in them uh colonel

2489
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:32,560
cabot

2490
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:34,800
he says this is exactly what was in the

2491
01:31:39,910 --> 01:31:37,120
office there was no debris switch

2492
01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:39,920
he said it was somebody's uh you know

2493
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:40,639
tight

2494
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:44,000
cold potato as far as i'm concerned now

2495
01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:46,080
he had several different interviews and

2496
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,679
he was adamant there was no debris

2497
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:49,679
switch because he met the plane

2498
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:52,159
took the sealed pouch escorted it

2499
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:53,920
straight to raymie's office they opened

2500
01:31:58,870 --> 01:31:54,480
it

2501
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:58,880
office chain of custody was never broken

2502
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:01,600
so this is what i found out when i was

2503
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:04,800
researching marcel i couldn't reconcile

2504
01:32:08,790 --> 01:32:07,679
his claims versus what we know did not

2505
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,800
happen

2506
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,320
didn't make sense can't have it both

2507
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:12,000
ways so then i found

2508
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:14,320
out when i got his military file that

2509
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:17,440
major jesse marcel was a fraud

2510
01:32:20,950 --> 01:32:19,840
meaning he lied about having a

2511
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:20,960
bachelor's degree

2512
01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:24,320
in physics and i asked for even hey

2513
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:26,239
marcel says he has a bachelor in physics

2514
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:28,080
from george washington university

2515
01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:29,920
how come you never talk physics with him

2516
01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:31,360
that's your favorite subject

2517
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:33,360
it always struck me as odd that's

2518
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:34,639
because he didn't have a degree in

2519
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:36,000
physics what could friedman

2520
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,920
talk to him about other than say buy one

2521
01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:39,679
of my papers

2522
01:32:46,229 --> 01:32:42,960
okay then i found out that

2523
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:46,239
marcel was written up in an official

2524
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:47,040
review

2525
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,719
three days three or four a few days

2526
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:50,320
after roswell

2527
01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:53,600
for exaggerating magnifying problems he

2528
01:32:59,910 --> 01:32:55,760
is confronted with

2529
01:33:02,790 --> 01:32:59,920
they said he's a good officer reliable

2530
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:02,800
but you know and raymie notes in his

2531
01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:03,360
file

2532
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:06,560
raymie himself who he had just met over

2533
01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:07,520
this thing

2534
01:33:10,709 --> 01:33:09,679
and he was up for review he says you're

2535
01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:10,719
not a pilot

2536
01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:12,880
you're not a rated pilot and that's

2537
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:13,840
going to hold you back

2538
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,280
because you're you're the you're at the

2539
01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:17,360
top gun base the guys who drop the

2540
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:20,800
damn atomic bomb are the cr are the

2541
01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:23,360
pilots at roswell you got to be a bad

2542
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:24,080
boy to

2543
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:25,840
hang with those guys and you're not a

2544
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:27,679
rated pilot it will always hold you back

2545
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,120
it's in this file

2546
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:31,679
then yeah so we get a we get a sort of

2547
01:33:36,870 --> 01:33:33,360
different view

2548
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:36,880
of him and how trustworthy he might be

2549
01:33:42,390 --> 01:33:40,080
right and my documents and evidence

2550
01:33:43,270 --> 01:33:42,400
and i've never seen those things myself

2551
01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:43,280
you know

2552
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:47,760
that story but uh people like you

2553
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:50,080
and a few others kind of uh burst my

2554
01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:51,520
bubble

2555
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:54,960
literally burst my

2556
01:34:01,350 --> 01:33:58,320
uh you burst my balloon

2557
01:34:03,910 --> 01:34:01,360
but to me

2558
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,920
you know when my razzle book came out

2559
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:05,440
roswell ufo crashed what they don't want

2560
01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:06,639
you to know

2561
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:08,880
i had said it was mogul and i still

2562
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:10,000
stand by that

2563
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:13,440
and bill moore met me secretly in

2564
01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:15,360
southern california and i put the date

2565
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:16,719
in the book and everything we met in the

2566
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:20,159
hotel room he was on his motorcycle he

2567
01:34:23,189 --> 01:34:21,840
expert on fixing those things hell of a

2568
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:23,199
rider

2569
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:25,520
and um i used to ride bikes too at

2570
01:34:28,709 --> 01:34:26,560
around that time

2571
01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:28,719
i had cowie's he had harley's and so

2572
01:34:32,950 --> 01:34:30,560
what happened was um

2573
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:32,960
he tells me this is the truth uh that he

2574
01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:33,679
had found

2575
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:36,080
mogul when he was writing the original

2576
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,440
roswell book but when he interviewed

2577
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:39,120
professor moore

2578
01:34:42,629 --> 01:34:41,040
moore had said based on the description

2579
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:42,639
of the stuff it can't be what we were

2580
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:44,320
flying and that quote is in the roswell

2581
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:45,280
incident book

2582
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:48,639
but bill moore explained to me that um

2583
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:51,440
it was if that interview had taken place

2584
01:34:54,310 --> 01:34:52,400
a little later

2585
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:54,320
he would have figured out it was mobile

2586
01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:56,639
and it was a classified military object

2587
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:59,679
so here's what sank the ship what

2588
01:35:02,390 --> 01:35:00,159
happened

2589
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:02,400
is professor charles moore who ran

2590
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:03,920
project mogul

2591
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:06,719
got a call from bob todd who's a top ufo

2592
01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:08,080
researcher is no longer alive

2593
01:35:11,350 --> 01:35:09,440
unfortunately

2594
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:11,360
he found professor moore and told him

2595
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:12,960
this is the name of your group project

2596
01:35:16,709 --> 01:35:14,639
mogul do you know about this

2597
01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:16,719
he had no idea what the code name was he

2598
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:19,040
knew it as a new york university balloon

2599
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:20,400
project

2600
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:23,840
and what happened is newton the weather

2601
01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:24,480
officer

2602
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:27,600
who was called in by raymie to identify

2603
01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:29,920
that this was really a you know radar

2604
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:31,679
kite

2605
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:33,760
he met with professor moore they'd never

2606
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:36,159
met before they met at moore's house

2607
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:39,600
in new mexico and in new mexico where he

2608
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:40,800
lives he still has

2609
01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:42,960
pieces of the mogul project because

2610
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,880
those radar reflectors and the high

2611
01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:46,400
altitude constant

2612
01:35:50,629 --> 01:35:49,679
altitude weather balloons very

2613
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:50,639
fascinating

2614
01:35:57,109 --> 01:35:53,760
atmospheric sciences so he brought out

2615
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,119
for them and for the cameras this stuff

2616
01:36:00,149 --> 01:35:59,040
and even showed balloons that had been

2617
01:36:01,590 --> 01:36:00,159
in the desert for

2618
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:01,600
certain weeks they would turn different

2619
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:04,239
colors develop that acreage smell

2620
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,960
and let me guess his stuff looked

2621
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:08,159
strikingly like

2622
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:10,800
the pictures from the ros it not only

2623
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:13,520
looked strikingly it looked identical

2624
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:17,199
and um even newton said this is what was

2625
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:19,119
in the office that day

2626
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:23,119
no question so now you have

2627
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:26,320
a problem so the very last interview

2628
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:27,199
that marcel

2629
01:36:31,109 --> 01:36:29,600
gave where friedman wasn't around and he

2630
01:36:34,149 --> 01:36:31,119
was talking to bob pratt

2631
01:36:37,590 --> 01:36:34,159
and it actually was documented

2632
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:37,600
he said he never believed in little

2633
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:38,000
green

2634
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:42,639
men now does that make any sense steven

2635
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:45,199
you recover a spaceship at roswell that

2636
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,679
is

2637
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:47,520
can't dent it with a 16 pound

2638
01:36:51,669 --> 01:36:48,800
sledgehammer

2639
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:51,679
all this stuff you fly it down there

2640
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:53,840
even though you're not a pilot okay

2641
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:55,920
you shoot down five enemy aircraft which

2642
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:57,199
would have made you an ace even though

2643
01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:59,199
you got no air metals for that that's a

2644
01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:59,920
lie

2645
01:37:03,030 --> 01:37:01,360
you said you were shot down in the

2646
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:03,040
pacific and the only survivor of your

2647
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,600
flight

2648
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:06,000
that was a lie you were never shot down

2649
01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:07,600
i mean the fish was always bigger and

2650
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,960
then

2651
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:11,360
after my roswell book came out jesse

2652
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:13,600
marcel jr contacts me

2653
01:37:17,510 --> 01:37:16,639
and says my dad did have a tendency to

2654
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:17,520
exaggerate

2655
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,119
on occasion quote unquote well g

2656
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:23,920
you know so it's all there it's a great

2657
01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,560
mystery

2658
01:37:28,229 --> 01:37:26,880
because there's so many data points

2659
01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:28,239
there's more data points

2660
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:29,840
i think that you can look into for

2661
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:31,920
roswell than most other cases

2662
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:33,920
but you know you know what i think uh

2663
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:35,360
it's okay with you now we're going to

2664
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,719
take just a short break

2665
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:40,080
and we're clearing up on um we're coming

2666
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:40,960
up

2667
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:44,880
here at 137

2668
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:47,040
so we're going to take a quick break and

2669
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:48,159
when we come back i

2670
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:50,480
wanted to know if you why don't we take

2671
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:51,600
a short break

2672
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:53,280
and then we'll come back with questions

2673
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:54,719
from the audience for you

2674
01:38:01,430 --> 01:37:57,600
absolutely all right let's uh see if we

2675
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:04,709
all right friends we'll be right

2676
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:23,690
okay friends we'll be right back

2677
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:44,160
[Music]

2678
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:08,350
do

2679
01:40:15,270 --> 01:39:24,830
[Music]

2680
01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:17,830
and we are back friends back with our

2681
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:20,480
very special guest tonight cal kwarf

2682
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,430
quite a number of people here in the

2683
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:29,920
live audience tonight which i'm thankful

2684
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:30,239
for

2685
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:33,679
welcome all of you guys um

2686
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:35,600
so if you have questions for cal court

2687
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:42,390
okay yeah alien scientist has got a

2688
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:42,800
great

2689
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,520
question here if marcel was so unstable

2690
01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:47,440
and such a liar why was he placed in

2691
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:50,560
charge of top military base which housed

2692
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:57,830
well the only thing i can tell you is

2693
01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:59,600
what's in his military file which

2694
01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:01,520
anybody can get by the way

2695
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,679
but here here's something that people

2696
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:05,119
need to know

2697
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:08,639
what bothers me is having been mentored

2698
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:11,440
and essentially raised by stanton

2699
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:14,400
friedman on investigating ufo cases

2700
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,159
i'll i'll be very blunt and i'm not the

2701
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:18,400
only one to talk about this kevin randle

2702
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:18,719
has

2703
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:21,199
finally come public about some things

2704
01:41:24,149 --> 01:41:22,719
freeman did to him which were terrible

2705
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:24,159
and i've told randall i can even

2706
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:25,920
elaborate on that

2707
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:28,719
there's something wrong when any lead

2708
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,679
investigator

2709
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:31,679
doesn't bother getting a military file

2710
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:33,840
of a chief military witness

2711
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:36,159
and friedman did not know marcel was a

2712
01:41:40,470 --> 01:41:37,760
fraud until

2713
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:40,480
i got the file and bob todd got the file

2714
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,520
in fact

2715
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:43,360
both bob todd and i getting the file

2716
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:45,119
caused bob todd and i to connect and

2717
01:41:48,950 --> 01:41:46,239
become friends and that's why i

2718
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:48,960
dedicated the book to him initially

2719
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:51,199
because we work together and when you

2720
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,880
look at marcel's file

2721
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:55,360
he was a career officer who basically

2722
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:56,400
was surrounded by

2723
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:59,679
very talent top talented guys in my

2724
01:42:02,310 --> 01:42:00,400
opinion

2725
01:42:04,390 --> 01:42:02,320
as a non-military guy he was in the

2726
01:42:05,990 --> 01:42:04,400
wrong place at the wrong time meaning

2727
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:06,000
all of a sudden this flying saucer thing

2728
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,840
drops in his lap and he's suddenly the

2729
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,440
guy to go to

2730
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:11,360
but the term flying saucer back then did

2731
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,280
not mean alien spacecraft and he never

2732
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,360
said it was he never described that he's

2733
01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:17,600
he said very clearly i don't know what

2734
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:18,639
it was

2735
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:21,840
but he knew that their explanation was

2736
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:25,360
not true and he was right it was a lie

2737
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:28,159
it was a cover-up but very clearly in

2738
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:28,639
his

2739
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:30,639
performance review it was days after

2740
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:34,400
roswell raymie himself made some remarks

2741
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:38,159
marcel was known among his peers to

2742
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:41,600
you know tell wild fish stories and um

2743
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,360
that also explains why he brought the

2744
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:44,719
wreckage home

2745
01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:46,880
of the alien saucer and showed his son

2746
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,840
and family

2747
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:49,600
you just don't do that if you're a top

2748
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:51,520
notch whatever especially if you think

2749
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:53,040
it's from outer space you wouldn't dare

2750
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:54,480
expose your family

2751
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:56,480
to something that could be radioactive

2752
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:57,920
so it could be dangerous there's a lot

2753
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:00,080
of fears of regular activity back then

2754
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:03,360
right so it's a good question oh i'm

2755
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:07,669
it's accounted for as far as why he was

2756
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,679
the way he was

2757
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:12,080
he retired by the way because he had to

2758
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,520
take care of his mother it was a

2759
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:15,520
glorious ending to his career i felt for

2760
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:19,199
him he left on a hardship

2761
01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:22,719
release the next question we have is are

2762
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:24,320
you suggesting that tic tacs

2763
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:27,760
are secret projects products

2764
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:30,159
i'm suggesting that when i was in india

2765
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:31,440
and i've reported on this

2766
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:33,840
that when the united states approached

2767
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:35,440
india to become part of the aegis

2768
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:36,960
alliance

2769
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,520
one of the reasons aegis exists is to

2770
01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:40,960
allow us to fight

2771
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:43,280
theoretically it's it's a component part

2772
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:45,119
of warfare it's integrated as well as

2773
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:46,560
standalone

2774
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:49,280
where we can fight below the water on it

2775
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:49,600
and

2776
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:51,840
up all the way into space it's a

2777
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,760
doctrine that goes back to the time of

2778
01:43:57,669 --> 01:43:55,920
actually rumsfeld that secretly

2779
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:57,679
uh pushed this and it was actually the

2780
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:59,679
brainchild of some think tanks like the

2781
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:00,960
rand corporation

2782
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,600
a lot of people don't think uh rand

2783
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,840
think tanks and others like that are

2784
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,760
are shall we say rather aggressive with

2785
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:09,360
their military plans but actually some

2786
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:10,800
of them quite are and it ends up

2787
01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:12,560
becoming an official program

2788
01:44:16,550 --> 01:44:15,040
so when i look at the mechanics of the

2789
01:44:18,070 --> 01:44:16,560
tic tac thing i'm talking about the

2790
01:44:20,149 --> 01:44:18,080
nimitz encounter

2791
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:20,159
what are the odds that this plane comes

2792
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:21,920
in from space which easily could have

2793
01:44:25,990 --> 01:44:23,520
flown that fast

2794
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:26,000
it happens to be lost in the same area

2795
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:27,280
not long before

2796
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:29,679
they happened to send the pilot who was

2797
01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:31,760
involved in faking a ufo incident

2798
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,360
uh fravor uh in the past who's known

2799
01:44:38,950 --> 01:44:37,360
for knowing about that subject having an

2800
01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:38,960
interest in it they send him out there

2801
01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:40,080
to see this thing

2802
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,679
the thing just takes off it doesn't

2803
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,119
really do anything i never heard that he

2804
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:44,800
had an interest in it or that he was

2805
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,960
no he he did he had faked a ufo

2806
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:49,760
encounter uh with his plane before

2807
01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:52,159
it was uh some sort of pseudo prank he'd

2808
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:53,199
have to tell you

2809
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:56,719
he he has changed his story here and

2810
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:57,119
there

2811
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:59,119
bob kiviat knows a lot more about him

2812
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:00,239
than i do and

2813
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:02,560
i'll just put it that way but and then

2814
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:03,600
you have of course

2815
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:05,440
the fact and i found this in the aegis

2816
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:06,960
records that every time they

2817
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:09,520
installed a new version of aegis as soon

2818
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:10,880
as they turn the radar on they'd get

2819
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:13,280
these readings of massive objects coming

2820
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:14,840
down

2821
01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:21,590
the upper atmosphere who would freeze

2822
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,000
and melt settings right

2823
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:26,560
pardon me yeah i'm saying when they when

2824
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:28,000
you know they have to calibrate it they

2825
01:45:30,629 --> 01:45:29,760
have to change sentences they have to

2826
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:30,639
test it

2827
01:45:34,070 --> 01:45:33,040
right it takes that is reading things

2828
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,080
accurately

2829
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:36,560
right so it takes weeks to do that and

2830
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,199
then

2831
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:39,360
i'm sorry if this is the best footage we

2832
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,600
can get of an object that's not that far

2833
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:43,199
away and not flying that fast

2834
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:44,639
if those numbers are right on the

2835
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:46,719
cockpit display you have to assume they

2836
01:45:50,310 --> 01:45:48,800
are it's not a hoax right

2837
01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:50,320
that's an extraterrestrial spacecraft

2838
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:51,840
going 400 knots

2839
01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,639
huh and the guy says it's a drone so

2840
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,480
things don't add up but we can't take

2841
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:58,320
the account that's been released as

2842
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:01,520
gospel because it's not we have to have

2843
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:04,159
the official government's report and we

2844
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:06,239
can't even go there until after the ufo

2845
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:07,199
task force

2846
01:46:11,350 --> 01:46:09,440
which i think is grossly mislabeled it's

2847
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:11,360
project blue book 2.0

2848
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:14,159
a pr stunned okay let's see what this

2849
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:16,080
high power task force comes back with

2850
01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:17,920
i'm predicting ahead of time using my

2851
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:19,280
non-sucky powers

2852
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:22,000
that this is a nothing burger it's a pr

2853
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:22,480
stunt

2854
01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,679
and yes they'll promise you the

2855
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:25,679
documents until the election

2856
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:28,320
and then nothing changes okay so the

2857
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:29,040
next question

2858
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:30,639
i think this is a good one because i get

2859
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:32,719
asked this one a lot because people know

2860
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,679
that i'm

2861
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:35,360
a little more skeptical than most even

2862
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:36,800
though i have an intense interest in

2863
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,080
these subjects

2864
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,119
so uh tara rubicon asks kalkorf

2865
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:43,199
are there any ufo cases that you

2866
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:45,679
validate

2867
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,280
yes um meaning um my own sighting which

2868
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:51,040
i had witnesses to still remains

2869
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:52,560
unexplained i can

2870
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:54,159
try to recreate it forensically but

2871
01:46:58,229 --> 01:46:56,000
unfortunately i can't prove what i saw

2872
01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:58,239
was an alien spacecraft

2873
01:47:01,990 --> 01:47:01,360
having worked at boeing uh years later

2874
01:47:05,910 --> 01:47:02,000
and

2875
01:47:09,270 --> 01:47:05,920
half time to it

2876
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:09,280
and some projects i still can't explain

2877
01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:10,400
what i saw

2878
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:13,600
but there are cases we are now

2879
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:16,000
revisiting that are classics that we're

2880
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:16,960
going to use

2881
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:20,239
these new technologies to solve them

2882
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,719
the most exciting case that i know of

2883
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,000
i'm very

2884
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:27,040
public about this is the rv47 case and

2885
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,239
i'll tell you why

2886
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:30,239
when i was at boeing and boeing had

2887
01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:32,400
bought mcdonnell douglas

2888
01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:35,360
i took the most accurate considered to

2889
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:37,600
be the most accurate scientific analysis

2890
01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:39,360
especially the em effects of that case

2891
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:41,199
and i gave it to people at mcdonald

2892
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,159
douglas i said

2893
01:47:46,229 --> 01:47:45,040
this was your plane long time ago before

2894
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:46,239
the records get merged

2895
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:49,360
purge burn whatever go through find what

2896
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:50,400
you can on this

2897
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:52,960
because this seems to be something here

2898
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:54,480
seems to be it's saying

2899
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:57,920
the first scientific proof

2900
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,840
of a technology that could not be made

2901
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:01,199
from here

2902
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:04,239
so what happened is when i ran that trap

2903
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:06,560
a guy worked with very nice guy who

2904
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:08,000
worked part time in our group he was

2905
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:10,000
kind of a mysterious guy meaning he's

2906
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:12,239
always around doing things his name was

2907
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:13,360
doug

2908
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:16,800
and um he told me nope that was an ecm

2909
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:19,920
operation electronic countermeasures and

2910
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:20,480
that stuck

2911
01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:22,320
in my mind because when i reported to

2912
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:23,600
the author that was it

2913
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,639
the author was not happy i said like

2914
01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:27,920
let's see what we can do to

2915
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:29,360
chase that down so what happened is

2916
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:31,199
years later

2917
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:34,560
i find out that uh the head of area 51

2918
01:48:37,109 --> 01:48:35,920
the chief scientist there that annie

2919
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:37,119
jacobson um

2920
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,880
interviewed that uh um td barnes said he

2921
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:42,719
said threw her under a bus and deceived

2922
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:44,080
her

2923
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:47,760
he told he said that the tic tacs are

2924
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:51,440
ours and that it is this mosaic

2925
01:48:55,510 --> 01:48:54,480
uh warfare integrated there's all kinds

2926
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:55,520
of stuff they're even

2927
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,719
able steven now to make bubbles on the

2928
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:00,480
surface of the water

2929
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:02,880
and use the patterns of the bubbles by

2930
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:04,400
agitating them

2931
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:07,199
to send digital encrypted signals i'm

2932
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:08,400
not kidding

2933
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:11,199
they've got amazing capabilities now the

2934
01:49:16,390 --> 01:49:12,159
myth

2935
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:16,400
there but it wouldn't surprise me

2936
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,239
well the myth becomes that you know

2937
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:20,320
we've got stuff and we can fight at 40

2938
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:23,840
000 feet below in the marianas trench no

2939
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:26,159
we do have missiles that can go

2940
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:27,360
underwater very deep

2941
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:30,480
very fast and they're much faster than

2942
01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:32,239
the torpedoes you see

2943
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:34,880
slugging it along in the movies

2944
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:37,360
hypersonic is the next big thing

2945
01:49:42,310 --> 01:49:40,400
and because the world is so

2946
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:42,320
schizophrenic now and everyone's for

2947
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:44,239
themselves let's be honest

2948
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,880
uh as far as i know although it's not

2949
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,080
officially confirmed

2950
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,199
we have russia has maybe china has

2951
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:53,760
nuclear weapons orbiting in space

2952
01:49:57,030 --> 01:49:55,199
so there's a whole lot of stuff with the

2953
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:57,040
space force and what's going on

2954
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,440
it's been long overdue but again we

2955
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:01,599
can't pursue anything about it

2956
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:04,480
until after the election because it ends

2957
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:05,840
and begins with the latest

2958
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:09,119
farce in my mind which is this ufo task

2959
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:11,679
force you have to have a task force for

2960
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:13,520
something that wasn't an emergency

2961
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:16,719
really yeah exactly you know well you

2962
01:50:19,589 --> 01:50:17,280
know cal

2963
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,599
uh we're coming up uh quickly coming up

2964
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:21,199
on the two hours and i want to make sure

2965
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:22,400
to give you a few minutes

2966
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,920
to uh where can people contact you where

2967
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:28,239
can they get your books uh what you've

2968
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:29,280
got to plug

2969
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:32,400
if people want and uh and go

2970
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:35,040
deeper down the cow court rabbit hole

2971
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:36,400
it's a good one friends

2972
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:38,800
it's a good one may wake you up too many

2973
01:50:42,310 --> 01:50:39,440
things

2974
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,320
may open your eyes it's almost like a

2975
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:44,320
second red pill

2976
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:47,679
uh and i think that it's uh it

2977
01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:51,119
definitely has value with your emphasis

2978
01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:52,000
on data

2979
01:51:00,229 --> 01:50:58,790
well thanks um well my books are

2980
01:51:01,990 --> 01:51:00,239
available on amazon

2981
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:02,000
um just search under my name they're

2982
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:03,760
there um

2983
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:06,239
the roswell book the meyer book these

2984
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,040
books here

2985
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:09,520
the new book on wendell stevens is going

2986
01:51:13,910 --> 01:51:10,800
to be on amazon

2987
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,920
um with of course steve cambion uh it'll

2988
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,159
be available according to amazon in

2989
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:18,320
somewhere within 48 to 72 hours that's

2990
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:19,679
what the system says like

2991
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:21,920
i'm excited i'm excited about that and

2992
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:22,719
i'm sure like

2993
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:25,679
you know i but i want to warn everyone

2994
01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:26,560
because

2995
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,480
you know like i have a very small

2996
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:30,560
section of this whole book

2997
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:32,080
because you know i don't want people to

2998
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:33,679
buy it and then go well there's only

2999
01:51:36,550 --> 01:51:34,080
like

3000
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:36,560
this many pages or whatever it was just

3001
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,360
a quick

3002
01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:39,679
contribution i contributed to it i don't

3003
01:51:42,709 --> 01:51:40,560
consider myself

3004
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:42,719
he put my name just as big as his and i

3005
01:51:48,070 --> 01:51:44,480
said no cal don't do that

3006
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:48,080
well but there's ego in this in fact i

3007
01:51:53,030 --> 01:51:50,000
often don't want my name on it but you

3008
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:53,040
know and then if i do i insist it be kkk

3009
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:55,520
just so people have to face their

3010
01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:00,390
you know oh for the record so the

3011
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:02,080
pleiadians don't try to attack me over

3012
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:02,719
this

3013
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,880
um the letter k is not used in the

3014
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,400
german alphabet or letter c

3015
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:08,800
is not used in the german alphabet a lot

3016
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:11,360
neither in hebrew my name is hebrew my

3017
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:13,040
last name is german so there's actually

3018
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:14,880
a figure i put in there stephen for

3019
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:16,960
those who want to go there the power of

3020
01:52:20,149 --> 01:52:18,159
the case and it's a

3021
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:20,159
it's a screenshot from a dictionary that

3022
01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,280
explains

3023
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:23,199
why these languages don't use k and

3024
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:24,560
that's the reason i don't have

3025
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,719
a c in there but ironically wendell who

3026
01:52:31,510 --> 01:52:28,480
was fluent in spanish had a c

3027
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:31,520
so when wendell attacked me in the book

3028
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,440
as i report for being a member of the ku

3029
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:35,760
klux klan because of my initials

3030
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:38,800
it was a racist to hateful ridiculous

3031
01:52:41,589 --> 01:52:39,920
it's just that's their

3032
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:41,599
tactics to try to turn people against

3033
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:44,080
you right

3034
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,080
listen i i could talk to you for another

3035
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:48,480
three hours here but we do got to wrap

3036
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,280
things up

3037
01:52:53,430 --> 01:52:52,080
sure and i have the video so here's what

3038
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:53,440
i'm going to tell everybody

3039
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:55,520
we don't usually go this long without

3040
01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:56,480
interacting and

3041
01:53:00,149 --> 01:52:58,560
talking and me answering questions from

3042
01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,159
the live chat so

3043
01:53:03,189 --> 01:53:01,840
cal what i'm going to do is i'm going to

3044
01:53:05,109 --> 01:53:03,199
hop off here

3045
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:05,119
and i'm going to work on uploading this

3046
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:07,040
video to our channel

3047
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,480
and then i'm going to hop back on to

3048
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:12,400
to interact here with the live chat

3049
01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:14,000
because we've got to keep it under this

3050
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:16,719
this limit here and right really under

3051
01:53:20,070 --> 01:53:17,760
the wire

3052
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:20,080
right thank you so much for doing this

3053
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:21,440
and we've got to have you come back and

3054
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,400
we'll do a part two

3055
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,800
absolutely yeah anytime just need to

3056
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:26,320
work on the schedule just so you know

3057
01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:28,159
now my chokehouse corner

3058
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:32,400
uh is now on every wednesday nights

3059
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:35,119
at uh 7 p.m uh 10 o'clock your time i

3060
01:53:37,629 --> 01:53:35,520
guess

3061
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:37,639
7 p.m pacific standard my website

3062
01:53:40,629 --> 01:53:39,040
calkorf.com

3063
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:40,639
has a lot of stuff all this is being

3064
01:53:45,470 --> 01:53:43,040
updated there's a new website launching

3065
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:45,480
in a couple days ufology

3066
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:48,239
ufoology.org has a store on there

3067
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:50,560
the books everything and then of course

3068
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:52,320
the online doors will appear

3069
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:54,400
for the stuff so a lot of stuff yeah a

3070
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:55,520
lot of the works

3071
01:53:58,709 --> 01:53:57,280
and i'm glad to be to be helping you

3072
01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:58,719
with some of it so

3073
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,440
uh listen friends uh this has been an

3074
01:54:05,990 --> 01:54:02,880
information packed show

3075
01:54:08,149 --> 01:54:06,000
i'm gonna hop off here and try to deal

3076
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:08,159
with some housekeeping getting cal's

3077
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,520
video up and then

3078
01:54:12,870 --> 01:54:11,280
i'll be back on just to interact with

3079
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:12,880
the audience and we'll have sort of

3080
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:16,400
ask me anything and uh more laid back uh

3081
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:18,159
part two for tonight i've got a little

3082
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:19,599
bit of steam left in me and i think it's

3083
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,639
important to do that

3084
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:22,560
thanks so much for doing this cow court

3085
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:24,480
i appreciate it you're welcome anytime

3086
01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:25,760
let's do it again

3087
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:30,000
right well friends uh

3088
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:31,280
i want to thank each and every one of

3089
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:33,280
you for joining uh for joining us

3090
01:54:36,709 --> 01:54:34,960
tonight we're gonna do a part two for

3091
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:36,719
tonight i'm gonna hop back on here

3092
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:37,679
shortly

3093
01:54:56,380 --> 01:54:40,159
but in the meantime friends god bless

3094
01:54:56,390 --> 01:55:30,830
[Music]

3095
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:35,490
so

3096
01:56:14,740 --> 01:55:43,070
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